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  • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

    I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

    For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

    Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

    Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

    serfdeweb@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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    serfdeweb@mastodon.world
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    @augieray
    I sure do, and I also sure appreciate that wastewater data tracking Covid and flu are now available online in France, where I'm at.

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    • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

      I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

      For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

      Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

      Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

      mscheffel@techhub.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @augieray your work is appreciated. Thank Science that some monitoring occurring despite cuts

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      • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

        I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

        For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

        Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

        Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

        jawarajabbi@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @augieray

        Social media is full of trolls whose purpose is to spread fear and anger. Ignore them.

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        • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

          I'm not saying COVID is gone or you shouldn't be cautious. I think it's vital people have the freedom to do what they think is right for their and their families' health. But doing the right thing requires valid information, and I'd hope by providing that, I help people.

          COVID is going to surge again. The question is if we'll continue the trend to lower surges and a safer world, or will that reverse? I'll still be watching. I just hope people will accept good news as eagerly as they do bad. 2/2

          samy@eupolicy.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @augieray
          I am very happy about this trend. But like you, I stay cautious. I am worried in the wrong hands it will be used to minimise when the possible next surge approaches.
          The whole pandemic really broke a lot of trust of many people in many ways, including me. I also think most people just lost interest and don’t care anymore.
          But I still read your toots and appreciate them very much!

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          • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

            I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

            For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

            Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

            Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

            emjonaitis@mathstodon.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @augieray I was under the impression that wastewater data was really only good for near-term comparisons, e.g. “do current levels represent an increase or a drop from last week?” Do we have expert commentary somewhere on whether this has changed? I’d be happy to welcome good news if I could be convinced that we didn’t have to worry about other factors intervening in long range trends (examples off the top of my head — changes in typical viral load in excreta as the virus evolves, changes in wastewater dynamics due to extraneous factors like droughts/floods or engineering updates, changes in how the measurements are taken or reported). I mostly haven’t tracked the data since 2022, so it’s very possible there’s info I’ve missed.

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            • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

              I'm not saying COVID is gone or you shouldn't be cautious. I think it's vital people have the freedom to do what they think is right for their and their families' health. But doing the right thing requires valid information, and I'd hope by providing that, I help people.

              COVID is going to surge again. The question is if we'll continue the trend to lower surges and a safer world, or will that reverse? I'll still be watching. I just hope people will accept good news as eagerly as they do bad. 2/2

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              #13

              @augieray Thanks for all your information. The billionaire press is not going to report on COVID. What COVID did is alert us to the future world of a zillion viruses, with many of us feeling COVID messed with our immune systems. I feel more prepared now.

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              • emjonaitis@mathstodon.xyzE emjonaitis@mathstodon.xyz

                @augieray I was under the impression that wastewater data was really only good for near-term comparisons, e.g. “do current levels represent an increase or a drop from last week?” Do we have expert commentary somewhere on whether this has changed? I’d be happy to welcome good news if I could be convinced that we didn’t have to worry about other factors intervening in long range trends (examples off the top of my head — changes in typical viral load in excreta as the virus evolves, changes in wastewater dynamics due to extraneous factors like droughts/floods or engineering updates, changes in how the measurements are taken or reported). I mostly haven’t tracked the data since 2022, so it’s very possible there’s info I’ve missed.

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                @emjonaitis there have been studies that have found their wastewater analysis is very predictive of things like infections and hospitalizations. Besides, if short-term wastewater analysis was suggested something as rising or falling then why wouldn't long term analysis do the same?

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                • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                  I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                  For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                  Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                  Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

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                  @augieray
                  I depend on your COVID reporting as a trusted source.

                  I haven't abandoned my COVID cautions due to your good news.

                  I do use your new, more positive data to alleviate some of my anxieties about being in public spaces.

                  Don't let the haters affect your analysis.

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                  • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                    I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                    For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                    Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                    Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                    metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @augieray "Optimism" about covid is able to be, and is, weaponised to oppress immunocompromised people.

                    It is used as the justification to scale back affordances to protect the vulnerable, and to force those people into situations that are a risk to them, but perhaps not so much for the abled population.

                    One might argue that expressing optimism about Covid is inherently unethical, and for a doctor, directly contradicts the "do no harm" principle.

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                    • metaning@mastodon.socialM metaning@mastodon.social

                      @augieray "Optimism" about covid is able to be, and is, weaponised to oppress immunocompromised people.

                      It is used as the justification to scale back affordances to protect the vulnerable, and to force those people into situations that are a risk to them, but perhaps not so much for the abled population.

                      One might argue that expressing optimism about Covid is inherently unethical, and for a doctor, directly contradicts the "do no harm" principle.

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                      @metaning if one can't see improvements in infectious risk as helpful and not harmful to immunocompromised people, that says more about your attitudes than it does the data or the risks.

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                      • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                        @emjonaitis there have been studies that have found their wastewater analysis is very predictive of things like infections and hospitalizations. Besides, if short-term wastewater analysis was suggested something as rising or falling then why wouldn't long term analysis do the same?

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                        @augieray no, it wouldn’t — some processes can be treated as stationary over short intervals but not long ones. For example, if the measurement is affected by seasonality for some reason (eg a dry/wet seasonal pattern in the local climate), that won’t affect comparisons of measurements week to week, but it will affect long range comparisons. N.B. that example is made up; wastewater data analysis is outside my wheelhouse but I know enough statistics to have a sense of what I don’t know, if that makes sense.

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                        • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                          I'm not saying COVID is gone or you shouldn't be cautious. I think it's vital people have the freedom to do what they think is right for their and their families' health. But doing the right thing requires valid information, and I'd hope by providing that, I help people.

                          COVID is going to surge again. The question is if we'll continue the trend to lower surges and a safer world, or will that reverse? I'll still be watching. I just hope people will accept good news as eagerly as they do bad. 2/2

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                          @augieray Hopefully you're getting an equal amount (or more!) of encouragement, thanks and appreciation. Cause that's what you have from me.

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                          • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                            @metaning if one can't see improvements in infectious risk as helpful and not harmful to immunocompromised people, that says more about your attitudes than it does the data or the risks.

                            metaning@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @augieray "Optimism" about covid is what makes it impossible to see a dentist, because their staff may refuse to wear N95 respirators when you have to take yours off, because "Covid is over" and "Covid isn't so bad". Or, get trades in to your house, because even though you supply them with masks, they take them off when you're not looking.

                            It speaks to your attitude that you're not thinking from the perspective of people less fortunate than you.

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                            • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                              I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                              For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                              Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                              Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                              raz2701@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @augieray It’s probably terminally-online doomers that wanted the world to burn. The data is deflating their power fantasy (they’d survive any catastrophe of course) and thus they attack you.

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                              • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                                I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                                For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                                Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                                Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                                dziadekmick@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @augieray Oh, man! You don't deserve this.

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                                • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                                  I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                                  For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                                  Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                                  Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

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                                  @augieray Mind-boggling. I've seen your stuff being shared here for years, and if anything, you sharing this news should probably be given *extra* weight and cheer.

                                  I'm sorry you're catching hear for it, but I'm glad I saw this post today. I see your posts so often I assumed I was following you, but I realized today I was not. Now rectified.

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                                  • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                                    I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                                    For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                                    Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                                    Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                                    shezza_t@mastodon.ieS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @augieray 👋 I’m one who appreciated your concern, and your comprehensive data gathering. And I’m starting to feel a little bit of hope too, at least as far as this summer goes.

                                    Sorry you’re getting the negative interactions. There’s loads of us who appreciate what you do.

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                                    • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                                      I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                                      For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                                      Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                                      Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                                      alison@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @augieray We can use any good news we can get. Keep on bringing it Augie. On the rude ones - mute and block liberally!

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                                      • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                                        I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                                        For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                                        Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                                        Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                                        bladderbot@mastodon.onlineB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @augieray
                                        Thank you for sharing not only the good news but also the mixed receptions you got for sharing good news.
                                        Like so many replies here, I also was so happy to hear that there is also good news, and I was extra happy because the good news came from a voice I trust because of your exceptionally dedicated service to sharing COVID science. Thank you!

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                                        • augieray@mastodon.socialA augieray@mastodon.social

                                          I'm struggling with the criticism I'm getting for sharing upbeat #COVID19 news.

                                          For years, I probed data and shared accurate analysis showing COVID risks were higher than most thought. Many people liked and reposted me.

                                          Today, I share that COVID is far lower than it's been in six years after two years of consecutively declining surges, and people act like I'm a COVID minimizer.

                                          Same guy, same data, same analysis. If you welcomed my concern, I hope you'd equally embrace my optimism. 1/2

                                          darwinwoodka@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @augieray

                                          We appreciate your work! Thank you!

                                          Thanks to those like you I've still never had Covid, and I appreciate everyone who helps keep others safe!

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