we got a team back to the moon, and still can't get teams or zoom to run correctly, and they're back on holy terra.
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@da_667 and somehow
SOMEHOW
microsoft went backwards
somehow
with all their tech and all their resources and all their moneythey did *WORSE* than in 1972
@Viss don't get me wrong, I'm celebrating a triump of us returning to the moon after 50+ years but god damn am I disappointed in modern software.
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slopware. That's a new one. Nobody coined that yet, right? There's slop, there's AI slop, but not slopware. There is a lot of slopware these days. Just the most dog shit software depending on years of hardware refinement to make up for its lack of optimization and refinement. And we're here lapping that shit up like its the finest thing there is, techbros feeding us lies the entire time.
@da_667 I am amazed Office is still the standard. It doesn't even fucking work right. You should hear my wife scream at her work issued laptop.
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@da_667 I am amazed Office is still the standard. It doesn't even fucking work right. You should hear my wife scream at her work issued laptop.
@nuintari I refuse to use their cloud shit, because I absolutely refuse to pay for a subsciption for something that was (and if you try hard enough still is) a one and done purchase.
At one point, I had a license of office 2016, but it was single use, single install. Then I installed linux, and pirated a copy for my Windows 11 VM, because I'll be god damned if I'm paying again for software I already paid for.
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@Viss don't get me wrong, I'm celebrating a triump of us returning to the moon after 50+ years but god damn am I disappointed in modern software.
@da_667 their backhaul was fine. we were getting telemetry and fucking live highres video for 9 days of people who literally did a loop de loop around the moon.
then when they got out their nikons, and started machinegunning photos, they were able to then send those photos back to nasa via laser.
all that worked!
tcp was good, the link was good, 2500ms pingbut outlook didnt work.
meaning everything from "the moon" to "the groundstation" was 100% fine
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@da_667 their backhaul was fine. we were getting telemetry and fucking live highres video for 9 days of people who literally did a loop de loop around the moon.
then when they got out their nikons, and started machinegunning photos, they were able to then send those photos back to nasa via laser.
all that worked!
tcp was good, the link was good, 2500ms pingbut outlook didnt work.
meaning everything from "the moon" to "the groundstation" was 100% fine
@da_667 so that suggests they could like, spin up a box just for the mission. a vm even. wherever the downlink was, and just relay messages that way (hell, i use posfix relaying right now!) but instead some genius said "nono, lets have astronauts literally try to hit azure from space"
fuckin bonehead
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@da_667 their backhaul was fine. we were getting telemetry and fucking live highres video for 9 days of people who literally did a loop de loop around the moon.
then when they got out their nikons, and started machinegunning photos, they were able to then send those photos back to nasa via laser.
all that worked!
tcp was good, the link was good, 2500ms pingbut outlook didnt work.
meaning everything from "the moon" to "the groundstation" was 100% fine
@Viss THAT was a fucking miracle of science and absolutely amazing that it did work. We made TCP run on a laser link hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
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@Viss THAT was a fucking miracle of science and absolutely amazing that it did work. We made TCP run on a laser link hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
@da_667 if there was a way for me to go work on that shit, i would close up shop at phobos overnight and run towards it.
that shit is so cool
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@da_667 if there was a way for me to go work on that shit, i would close up shop at phobos overnight and run towards it.
that shit is so cool
@da_667 incidentally, this is how the proposed moon comms will work. similar to how starlink works now, itlll be radio from ground up to sats, then a lasergrid for redundancy, then lasers to the moon, where it'll be the same sorta deal in reverse, except i guess they havent decided yet if theyre gonna have satellites or just ground stations to catch lasers.
then i guess moon wifi.
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@da_667 incidentally, this is how the proposed moon comms will work. similar to how starlink works now, itlll be radio from ground up to sats, then a lasergrid for redundancy, then lasers to the moon, where it'll be the same sorta deal in reverse, except i guess they havent decided yet if theyre gonna have satellites or just ground stations to catch lasers.
then i guess moon wifi.
@da_667 im suspecting moon wifi will work really fuckin great because theres no pesky air or rain to fuck with signal
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how in the fuck do we manage to get back to the moon and in that effort, enterprise software failed twice. Two different outlook clients, and meeting software.
In one hand we have the apex of humanity: traveling the furthest from our planet we ever have with the most complex hardware and guidance software there is, with the most well-trained space and ground crews. On the other hand, you can't send a fucking e-mail because slopware.
@da_667 just be thankful they didn't have to worry about any printers onboard Orion
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how in the fuck do we manage to get back to the moon and in that effort, enterprise software failed twice. Two different outlook clients, and meeting software.
In one hand we have the apex of humanity: traveling the furthest from our planet we ever have with the most complex hardware and guidance software there is, with the most well-trained space and ground crews. On the other hand, you can't send a fucking e-mail because slopware.
@da_667 It just so happens that software made to be as resource intensive and inefficient as possible while gathering as much sensitive information as possible is goddamn terrible at doing anything useful.
There is a point where even the most brainwashed users and sysadmins are going to realize the software they are using has no utility, and that they are the guinea pig generating data for whatever nefarious fuckery the techbros cooked up.
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@da_667 im suspecting moon wifi will work really fuckin great because theres no pesky air or rain to fuck with signal
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@Viss THAT was a fucking miracle of science and absolutely amazing that it did work. We made TCP run on a laser link hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
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@Viss @jpm @da_667 Eeehhh... Only if you configure your servers correctly!
https://web.mit.edu/jemorris/humor/500-miles -
@da_667 if there was a way for me to go work on that shit, i would close up shop at phobos overnight and run towards it.
that shit is so cool
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@jpm @da_667 i guess a better way of saying it is:
it doesnt matter if the astronauts were INSIDE THE AZURE DATACENTER - they would have had the same problems.
because the problems had nothing to do with the lasers, groundstations, tranceivers, or protocol (tcp in this case).
the problem squarely rests at the feet of microsoft, azure, and "exchange".
the mistake was selecting microsoft to be the vendor to handle comms
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@paul_ipv6 @Viss @da_667 moon cellular not WiFi; Nokia did a 4G tower test on the moon with Intuitive Machines to provide connectivity for robotic rovers.
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@paul_ipv6 @Viss @da_667 moon cellular not WiFi; Nokia did a 4G tower test on the moon with Intuitive Machines to provide connectivity for robotic rovers.
"sign up for 2 years on the moon and we'll knock 40% off your recurring fees"
at least, not yet.