we got a team back to the moon, and still can't get teams or zoom to run correctly, and they're back on holy terra.
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how in the fuck do we manage to get back to the moon and in that effort, enterprise software failed twice. Two different outlook clients, and meeting software.
In one hand we have the apex of humanity: traveling the furthest from our planet we ever have with the most complex hardware and guidance software there is, with the most well-trained space and ground crews. On the other hand, you can't send a fucking e-mail because slopware.
@da_667 microsoft was not only zero help in space missions, they were a detractor, in that even their flagship fucking products didnt work, even with the pressure of the entire planet watching history being made
what a fucking fantastic opportunity for literally eveyrone to dump outlook and exchange
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how in the fuck do we manage to get back to the moon and in that effort, enterprise software failed twice. Two different outlook clients, and meeting software.
In one hand we have the apex of humanity: traveling the furthest from our planet we ever have with the most complex hardware and guidance software there is, with the most well-trained space and ground crews. On the other hand, you can't send a fucking e-mail because slopware.
@da_667 Right, but how often do you LEGIT get to use the cosmic rays or solar flares excuses when something fails though?
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@da_667 microsoft was not only zero help in space missions, they were a detractor, in that even their flagship fucking products didnt work, even with the pressure of the entire planet watching history being made
what a fucking fantastic opportunity for literally eveyrone to dump outlook and exchange
@da_667 like, if they gave a shit _at all_, someone at ms would have been doing backflips to make sure shit went absolutely 100% perfectly
but they didnt.
and its not because they are "under resourced"
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@da_667 Right, but how often do you LEGIT get to use the cosmic rays or solar flares excuses when something fails though?
@TomSellers but all of the streaming software and APIs worked perfectly fine.
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@da_667 like, if they gave a shit _at all_, someone at ms would have been doing backflips to make sure shit went absolutely 100% perfectly
but they didnt.
and its not because they are "under resourced"
@da_667 they just
didnt care to.
microsoft just ...
didnt care to deliver when the rest of humanity was making history
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@da_667 microsoft was not only zero help in space missions, they were a detractor, in that even their flagship fucking products didnt work, even with the pressure of the entire planet watching history being made
what a fucking fantastic opportunity for literally eveyrone to dump outlook and exchange
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@da_667 they just
didnt care to.
microsoft just ...
didnt care to deliver when the rest of humanity was making history
@Viss if we count the 70s and the mainframe era is the genesis of modern computing, we've had somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 years to improve. Meanwhile in that era, we got to space on fucking hardware the equivalent of the TI-83 calculator.
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@scottwilson @da_667 i hope that some pinhead at nasa gets shot into the sun over it
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@Viss if we count the 70s and the mainframe era is the genesis of modern computing, we've had somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 years to improve. Meanwhile in that era, we got to space on fucking hardware the equivalent of the TI-83 calculator.
@da_667 and somehow
SOMEHOW
microsoft went backwards
somehow
with all their tech and all their resources and all their moneythey did *WORSE* than in 1972
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@da_667 and somehow
SOMEHOW
microsoft went backwards
somehow
with all their tech and all their resources and all their moneythey did *WORSE* than in 1972
@Viss don't get me wrong, I'm celebrating a triump of us returning to the moon after 50+ years but god damn am I disappointed in modern software.
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slopware. That's a new one. Nobody coined that yet, right? There's slop, there's AI slop, but not slopware. There is a lot of slopware these days. Just the most dog shit software depending on years of hardware refinement to make up for its lack of optimization and refinement. And we're here lapping that shit up like its the finest thing there is, techbros feeding us lies the entire time.
@da_667 I am amazed Office is still the standard. It doesn't even fucking work right. You should hear my wife scream at her work issued laptop.
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@da_667 I am amazed Office is still the standard. It doesn't even fucking work right. You should hear my wife scream at her work issued laptop.
@nuintari I refuse to use their cloud shit, because I absolutely refuse to pay for a subsciption for something that was (and if you try hard enough still is) a one and done purchase.
At one point, I had a license of office 2016, but it was single use, single install. Then I installed linux, and pirated a copy for my Windows 11 VM, because I'll be god damned if I'm paying again for software I already paid for.
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@Viss don't get me wrong, I'm celebrating a triump of us returning to the moon after 50+ years but god damn am I disappointed in modern software.
@da_667 their backhaul was fine. we were getting telemetry and fucking live highres video for 9 days of people who literally did a loop de loop around the moon.
then when they got out their nikons, and started machinegunning photos, they were able to then send those photos back to nasa via laser.
all that worked!
tcp was good, the link was good, 2500ms pingbut outlook didnt work.
meaning everything from "the moon" to "the groundstation" was 100% fine
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@da_667 their backhaul was fine. we were getting telemetry and fucking live highres video for 9 days of people who literally did a loop de loop around the moon.
then when they got out their nikons, and started machinegunning photos, they were able to then send those photos back to nasa via laser.
all that worked!
tcp was good, the link was good, 2500ms pingbut outlook didnt work.
meaning everything from "the moon" to "the groundstation" was 100% fine
@da_667 so that suggests they could like, spin up a box just for the mission. a vm even. wherever the downlink was, and just relay messages that way (hell, i use posfix relaying right now!) but instead some genius said "nono, lets have astronauts literally try to hit azure from space"
fuckin bonehead
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@da_667 their backhaul was fine. we were getting telemetry and fucking live highres video for 9 days of people who literally did a loop de loop around the moon.
then when they got out their nikons, and started machinegunning photos, they were able to then send those photos back to nasa via laser.
all that worked!
tcp was good, the link was good, 2500ms pingbut outlook didnt work.
meaning everything from "the moon" to "the groundstation" was 100% fine
@Viss THAT was a fucking miracle of science and absolutely amazing that it did work. We made TCP run on a laser link hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
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@Viss THAT was a fucking miracle of science and absolutely amazing that it did work. We made TCP run on a laser link hundreds of thousands of miles into space.
@da_667 if there was a way for me to go work on that shit, i would close up shop at phobos overnight and run towards it.
that shit is so cool
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@da_667 if there was a way for me to go work on that shit, i would close up shop at phobos overnight and run towards it.
that shit is so cool
@da_667 incidentally, this is how the proposed moon comms will work. similar to how starlink works now, itlll be radio from ground up to sats, then a lasergrid for redundancy, then lasers to the moon, where it'll be the same sorta deal in reverse, except i guess they havent decided yet if theyre gonna have satellites or just ground stations to catch lasers.
then i guess moon wifi.
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@da_667 incidentally, this is how the proposed moon comms will work. similar to how starlink works now, itlll be radio from ground up to sats, then a lasergrid for redundancy, then lasers to the moon, where it'll be the same sorta deal in reverse, except i guess they havent decided yet if theyre gonna have satellites or just ground stations to catch lasers.
then i guess moon wifi.
@da_667 im suspecting moon wifi will work really fuckin great because theres no pesky air or rain to fuck with signal
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how in the fuck do we manage to get back to the moon and in that effort, enterprise software failed twice. Two different outlook clients, and meeting software.
In one hand we have the apex of humanity: traveling the furthest from our planet we ever have with the most complex hardware and guidance software there is, with the most well-trained space and ground crews. On the other hand, you can't send a fucking e-mail because slopware.
@da_667 just be thankful they didn't have to worry about any printers onboard Orion
