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  3. AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

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  • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

    AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

    The double-standard is ridiculous.

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    How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

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    @seanfobbe What exactly do they mean by API router loopholes?

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    • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

      AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

      The double-standard is ridiculous.

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      How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

      : Just ask DeepSeek

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      (www.theregister.com)

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      @seanfobbe not surprising and as @nicklockwood posted earlier (I’ll have to find the post and update here), and I’m paraphrasing, that the law will always side with to corpo-fascist because they are dictating the laws not the publicly elected criminals, and certainly not common sense.

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      • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

        AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

        The double-standard is ridiculous.

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        How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

        : Just ask DeepSeek

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        (www.theregister.com)

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        @seanfobbe It stuns me that anyone with proprietary software would allow it to be uploaded to somebody's AI model for the purpose of improving, refactoring, or "finding bugs".
        You've just given away your most sensitive IP, to somebody who did not sign your NDA. In my work, previously that would have been unthinkable.

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        • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

          AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

          The double-standard is ridiculous.

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          How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

          : Just ask DeepSeek

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          (www.theregister.com)

          deliverator@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @seanfobbe disappointed the reg didn't get comments from the companies on the obvious double standard here. Or at the very least point it out 😞

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          • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

            AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

            The double-standard is ridiculous.

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            How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

            : Just ask DeepSeek

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            (www.theregister.com)

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            @seanfobbe I knew it would take a situation like this for the techbros to actually consider pushing legislation.

            The whole "nuuuu, legislation will stifle innovation of a vulnerable new industry uwu" to getting lawmakers involved once other foreign competitors start stealing the datasets they stole in the first place is peak capitalist greed and systematic corruption.

            What would be hilarious is if the legislators say "our hands are tied due to the 10 year ban on AI regulation provision in the big "beautiful" bill, leaving these techbros high and dry to fix this on their own, but I don't think they realize the shitstorm that would ensue if they ask the dementia-ridded orange for favors to skirt around said law in this instance.

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            • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

              AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

              The double-standard is ridiculous.

              Link Preview Image
              How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

              : Just ask DeepSeek

              favicon

              (www.theregister.com)

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              @seanfobbe Tech giants know they have no moat. Regulatory capture mode activated.

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              • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                The double-standard is ridiculous.

                Link Preview Image
                How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                : Just ask DeepSeek

                favicon

                (www.theregister.com)

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                @seanfobbe #AI is #clankers all the way down!

                #Resist #AIslop.

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                • deliverator@infosec.exchangeD deliverator@infosec.exchange

                  @seanfobbe disappointed the reg didn't get comments from the companies on the obvious double standard here. Or at the very least point it out 😞

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                  @deliverator Yep, I find this disappointing as well. The Reg article is quite one-sided and doesn't address the fair use double standard at all. They usually do much better...

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                  • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                    AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                    The double-standard is ridiculous.

                    Link Preview Image
                    How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                    : Just ask DeepSeek

                    favicon

                    (www.theregister.com)

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                    @seanfobbe Chinese AI Labs being incredibly BASED over and over again

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                      @dgar @seanfobbe You got me there 🙄

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