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  3. AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

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  • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

    The double-standard is ridiculous.

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    How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

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    • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

      AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

      The double-standard is ridiculous.

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      How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

      : Just ask DeepSeek

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      @seanfobbe

      The fact that Google put their own needs front and center in that threat intel report instead of those of their customers and the public was frankly off-putting.

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      • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

        AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

        The double-standard is ridiculous.

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        How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

        : Just ask DeepSeek

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        (www.theregister.com)

        ponygirl@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @seanfobbe NOTHING good will come from AI. Hear me now, quote me later.

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        • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

          AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

          The double-standard is ridiculous.

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          How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

          : Just ask DeepSeek

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          (www.theregister.com)

          kaito02@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @seanfobbe They should chill. it's fair use, remember? 🤣

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          • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

            AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

            The double-standard is ridiculous.

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            How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

            : Just ask DeepSeek

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            @seanfobbe "They are stealing the stuff WE stole!"

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            • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

              AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

              The double-standard is ridiculous.

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              How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

              : Just ask DeepSeek

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              (www.theregister.com)

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              @seanfobbe We're "training on" their reasoning; it's definitely transformative fair use!

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              • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                The double-standard is ridiculous.

                Link Preview Image
                How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                : Just ask DeepSeek

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                (www.theregister.com)

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                @seanfobbe What exactly do they mean by API router loopholes?

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                • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                  AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                  The double-standard is ridiculous.

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                  How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                  : Just ask DeepSeek

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                  macronaut@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @seanfobbe not surprising and as @nicklockwood posted earlier (I’ll have to find the post and update here), and I’m paraphrasing, that the law will always side with to corpo-fascist because they are dictating the laws not the publicly elected criminals, and certainly not common sense.

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                  • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                    AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                    The double-standard is ridiculous.

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                    How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                    : Just ask DeepSeek

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                    (www.theregister.com)

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                    @seanfobbe It stuns me that anyone with proprietary software would allow it to be uploaded to somebody's AI model for the purpose of improving, refactoring, or "finding bugs".
                    You've just given away your most sensitive IP, to somebody who did not sign your NDA. In my work, previously that would have been unthinkable.

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                    • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                      AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                      The double-standard is ridiculous.

                      Link Preview Image
                      How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                      : Just ask DeepSeek

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                      (www.theregister.com)

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                      @seanfobbe disappointed the reg didn't get comments from the companies on the obvious double standard here. Or at the very least point it out 😞

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                      • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                        AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                        The double-standard is ridiculous.

                        Link Preview Image
                        How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                        : Just ask DeepSeek

                        favicon

                        (www.theregister.com)

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                        @seanfobbe I knew it would take a situation like this for the techbros to actually consider pushing legislation.

                        The whole "nuuuu, legislation will stifle innovation of a vulnerable new industry uwu" to getting lawmakers involved once other foreign competitors start stealing the datasets they stole in the first place is peak capitalist greed and systematic corruption.

                        What would be hilarious is if the legislators say "our hands are tied due to the 10 year ban on AI regulation provision in the big "beautiful" bill, leaving these techbros high and dry to fix this on their own, but I don't think they realize the shitstorm that would ensue if they ask the dementia-ridded orange for favors to skirt around said law in this instance.

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                        • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                          AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                          The double-standard is ridiculous.

                          Link Preview Image
                          How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                          : Just ask DeepSeek

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                          (www.theregister.com)

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                          @seanfobbe Tech giants know they have no moat. Regulatory capture mode activated.

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                          • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                            AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                            The double-standard is ridiculous.

                            Link Preview Image
                            How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                            : Just ask DeepSeek

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                            (www.theregister.com)

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                            @seanfobbe #AI is #clankers all the way down!

                            #Resist #AIslop.

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                            • deliverator@infosec.exchangeD deliverator@infosec.exchange

                              @seanfobbe disappointed the reg didn't get comments from the companies on the obvious double standard here. Or at the very least point it out 😞

                              seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @deliverator Yep, I find this disappointing as well. The Reg article is quite one-sided and doesn't address the fair use double standard at all. They usually do much better...

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                              • seanfobbe@fediscience.orgS seanfobbe@fediscience.org

                                AI companies copy all written works they can get their hands on and call it fair use, if someone does it to their models it suddenly becomes "unauthorized distillation" and should be actionable in court.

                                The double-standard is ridiculous.

                                Link Preview Image
                                How AI could eat itself: Using LLMs to distill rivals

                                : Just ask DeepSeek

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                                (www.theregister.com)

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                                @seanfobbe Chinese AI Labs being incredibly BASED over and over again

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                                  @dgar @seanfobbe You got me there 🙄

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