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  • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
    lproven@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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    Is AI Profitable Yet?

    Is AI Profitable Yet?

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    (isaiprofitable.com)

    Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

    <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

    P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

    thinkb4coding@mastodon.socialT liiwi@mastodon.socialL pkotrcka_1@social.vivaldi.netP darkling@mstdn.socialD tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT 6 Replies Last reply
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    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

      Is AI Profitable Yet?

      Is AI Profitable Yet?

      favicon

      (isaiprofitable.com)

      Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

      <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

      P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

      thinkb4coding@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
      thinkb4coding@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
      thinkb4coding@mastodon.social
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      @lproven Sora had a ratio of more than 1000x between cost and revenue....

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      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

        Is AI Profitable Yet?

        Is AI Profitable Yet?

        favicon

        (isaiprofitable.com)

        Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

        <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

        P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

        liiwi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        liiwi@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
        liiwi@mastodon.social
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        @lproven The rumors are strong:

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        Anthropic is reportedly about to have its first profitable quarter - Engadget

        Anthropic is expected to reach profitability for the first time since it was founded in 2021.

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        Engadget (www.engadget.com)

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        • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

          Is AI Profitable Yet?

          Is AI Profitable Yet?

          favicon

          (isaiprofitable.com)

          Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

          <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

          P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

          pkotrcka_1@social.vivaldi.netP This user is from outside of this forum
          pkotrcka_1@social.vivaldi.netP This user is from outside of this forum
          pkotrcka_1@social.vivaldi.net
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          #4

          @lproven Not sure, my colleagues are paying for the subscription for about a year now. So I would believe that a lot of people in genera are paying directly or indirectly.

          For example, if you buy a certain smartphone, you'll get a subscription for a year with one of the AI services. And I'm sure this is at least partially compensated by the manufacturer.

          It adds up quickly - just look at the revenue of Netflix, for example.

          What does not make too much sense to me is how small openAI is compared to basically anyone else...

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          • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

            Is AI Profitable Yet?

            Is AI Profitable Yet?

            favicon

            (isaiprofitable.com)

            Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

            <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

            P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

            darkling@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
            darkling@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
            darkling@mstdn.social
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            @lproven There's probably not a huge qualitative difference to the business between revenue at 10% of spend and revenue at 1% of spend.

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            • liiwi@mastodon.socialL liiwi@mastodon.social

              @lproven The rumors are strong:

              Link Preview Image
              Anthropic is reportedly about to have its first profitable quarter - Engadget

              Anthropic is expected to reach profitability for the first time since it was founded in 2021.

              favicon

              Engadget (www.engadget.com)

              darkling@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @liiwi @lproven Yeah... when's the next shareholders' meeting?

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              • darkling@mstdn.socialD darkling@mstdn.social

                @lproven There's probably not a huge qualitative difference to the business between revenue at 10% of spend and revenue at 1% of spend.

                lproven@social.vivaldi.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @darkling

                Ah, but consider...

                * We _know_ they are lying.

                What it can do, what it will, what it is, how much it costs, the future growth, the planned expansion... all categorical lies. Assume an order of magnitude. Maybe 2.

                Also on the costs.

                Add 1-2 more OOM.

                Also on charges. 1 or 2 OOM.

                "Pretty soon you're talking about real money."

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                • thinkb4coding@mastodon.socialT thinkb4coding@mastodon.social

                  @lproven Sora had a ratio of more than 1000x between cost and revenue....

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                  @lproven one of the sources:
                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3w3e467ewqo
                  I saw $1.7B cost for $1.2M revenue, which is quite the same ratio.

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                  • liiwi@mastodon.socialL liiwi@mastodon.social

                    @lproven The rumors are strong:

                    Link Preview Image
                    Anthropic is reportedly about to have its first profitable quarter - Engadget

                    Anthropic is expected to reach profitability for the first time since it was founded in 2021.

                    favicon

                    Engadget (www.engadget.com)

                    photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @liiwi @lproven did they sell buildings?

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                    • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                      Is AI Profitable Yet?

                      Is AI Profitable Yet?

                      favicon

                      (isaiprofitable.com)

                      Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

                      <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

                      P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

                      tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT This user is from outside of this forum
                      tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT This user is from outside of this forum
                      tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one
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                      #10

                      @lproven it's so profitable that they numbers are secret. we might die of shock if we saw how profitable this AI thing is.

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                      • lproven@social.vivaldi.netL lproven@social.vivaldi.net

                        Is AI Profitable Yet?

                        Is AI Profitable Yet?

                        favicon

                        (isaiprofitable.com)

                        Tracking the debts and profits of frontier AI companies (May 2026).

                        <- TL;DR: LOL, no!

                        P.S. I suspect, but cannot prove, that the reported revenue here is at least 10x too optimistic.

                        schnedan@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
                        schnedan@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
                        schnedan@social.tchncs.de
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                        #11

                        @lproven Amazon was not making Profit for what? 10-15 years?

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