What's the point of declaring a winter respiratory season when our 'top doctor' doesn't do any mitigations - at all
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@MatWright the gaslighting is the point. Get people to feel like it's their personal fault if they get sick since levels are "low"
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@MatWright the gaslighting is the point. Get people to feel like it's their personal fault if they get sick since levels are "low"
@giflian plus we always get a spring/summer Covid spike because it loves warm weather - 'respiratory season' is nonsense
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What radicalized you?
camera zooms in on the part of the graph on the right where the signal is going nearly vertically up
(Bonny Henry's voice overlaid) "low prevalence and declining"
THX sound playsthanks @MatWright for putting the data in front of us
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@MatWright I am surprised, as your graph doesn't match what my sources show. For COVID-19, I don't know how they combine the different Metro Van plants, but COVID levels are currently way lower in Fraser than they were in the summer, Richmond is somewhat lower, and Vancouver is about the same. (This is not direct from the province, but from someone whose competence I trust: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7i2iqi6Ix1xWB4wh84RYsWRNHtZIWj5zKkZnYViw_A/edit .)
The graph from the federal wastewater page for Metro Van doesn't look like your graph either: it shows that there is a rise right now, but at about half the level of the summer peak: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/wastewater/
The province's charts -- which are the same as my friend's, only smoothed -- also show that levels are lower than they were in the summer: https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/respiratory_wastewater/
As for Influenza A, the province's graphs show Flu A almost gone.
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@MatWright I am surprised, as your graph doesn't match what my sources show. For COVID-19, I don't know how they combine the different Metro Van plants, but COVID levels are currently way lower in Fraser than they were in the summer, Richmond is somewhat lower, and Vancouver is about the same. (This is not direct from the province, but from someone whose competence I trust: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7i2iqi6Ix1xWB4wh84RYsWRNHtZIWj5zKkZnYViw_A/edit .)
The graph from the federal wastewater page for Metro Van doesn't look like your graph either: it shows that there is a rise right now, but at about half the level of the summer peak: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/wastewater/
The province's charts -- which are the same as my friend's, only smoothed -- also show that levels are lower than they were in the summer: https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/respiratory_wastewater/
As for Influenza A, the province's graphs show Flu A almost gone.
@MatWright My own graphs, with data that I scrape from the province's Viral Pathogens page, shows that reported influenza A cases (light blue line) are also way down: https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/respiratory_pathogen_characterization/ So I agree with your flu line, but am puzzled by your COVID line.
Where are you getting your data from?
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@MatWright My own graphs, with data that I scrape from the province's Viral Pathogens page, shows that reported influenza A cases (light blue line) are also way down: https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/respiratory_pathogen_characterization/ So I agree with your flu line, but am puzzled by your COVID line.
Where are you getting your data from?
@MatWright LOL I just now saw the URL at the bottom of your graph -- I see now it's from the federal wastewater page. Why does yours look so different than mine, both in terms of content and presentation?
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@MatWright LOL I just now saw the URL at the bottom of your graph -- I see now it's from the federal wastewater page. Why does yours look so different than mine, both in terms of content and presentation?
@MatWright Gah. And now I see wwater.ca in small letters. And they do in fact show a radically different shape to their COVID-19 graph. I don't know why.
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@MatWright Gah. And now I see wwater.ca in small letters. And they do in fact show a radically different shape to their COVID-19 graph. I don't know why.
@ducky I've always thought Federal data is more accurate than BC CDC, especially stating in 2022 when BC was called out for changing it's X/Y visualization which flattened Covid lines
Also my read is that Fed Health uses a different calculation to extrapolate infection rate from WW, more realistic than BC CDC
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@ducky I've always thought Federal data is more accurate than BC CDC, especially stating in 2022 when BC was called out for changing it's X/Y visualization which flattened Covid lines
Also my read is that Fed Health uses a different calculation to extrapolate infection rate from WW, more realistic than BC CDC
@MatWright I empathize, but the fed data doesn't look like the wwater.ca data either. The fed data *also* had the current COVID peak as only like 72% as high as the summer peak.
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@MatWright I empathize, but the fed data doesn't look like the wwater.ca data either. The fed data *also* had the current COVID peak as only like 72% as high as the summer peak.
@ducky oh, for sure, but my rant was Bonnie Henry trying to claim Covid in BC had flatlined and was no longer a huge community threat, when in fact it is climbing
I mean, one good thing is that winter surge here was the lowest really ever, so we might be entering a realm of high endemic levels. I guess we'll see over the summer, especially if a new mutation appears
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@ducky oh, for sure, but my rant was Bonnie Henry trying to claim Covid in BC had flatlined and was no longer a huge community threat, when in fact it is climbing
I mean, one good thing is that winter surge here was the lowest really ever, so we might be entering a realm of high endemic levels. I guess we'll see over the summer, especially if a new mutation appears
@MatWright My bad. I took a more careful look at the federal numbers, and yeah, the current level is at about 72% of the summer spike. I was mislead because the flattening of the curve makes it look like there's not much difference between the 28 Sept spike and the 17 Aug spike, when in fact there is a big difference. I was comparing the 2 Feb spike to the 28 Sept spike and not the 17 Aug spike.
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@MatWright My bad. I took a more careful look at the federal numbers, and yeah, the current level is at about 72% of the summer spike. I was mislead because the flattening of the curve makes it look like there's not much difference between the 28 Sept spike and the 17 Aug spike, when in fact there is a big difference. I was comparing the 2 Feb spike to the 28 Sept spike and not the 17 Aug spike.
@ducky that's the game - playing with visualizations - you need the raw data and graph yourself
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@ducky that's the game - playing with visualizations - you need the raw data and graph yourself
@MatWright Hmm, the province reports in copies per person per day, while the feds report in copies per mL -- which I think isn't as accurate. I wonder if that means the high signal in Surrey is getting over-represented somehow?
It will be interesting to see what data the province puts out next week.
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@MatWright Hmm, the province reports in copies per person per day, while the feds report in copies per mL -- which I think isn't as accurate. I wonder if that means the high signal in Surrey is getting over-represented somehow?
It will be interesting to see what data the province puts out next week.
@MatWright Aaand the federal chart and https://wwater.ca/British_Columbia/Metro_Vancouver are both down again. I don't know what that spike was.
