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What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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  • steve@mastodon.nexusuk.orgS steve@mastodon.nexusuk.org

    @Edent is there a law that says you have to give a number? If so, it seems like a bizarre requirement (I might want to know specifically who my data is being shared with, but I care not how many). If not, why do they do it?

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    @steve @Edent it's part of the https://iabeurope.eu/transparency-consent-framework/ so everyone who implements that flow ends up doing it
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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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      @Edent 1467 from the Manchester Evening News

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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        @Edent horrifying. But what is "legitimate interest" as distinct from other interest. I decline 'normal' cookies and then have to decline legitimate interest separately. The only legitimate interest I can ever think of might be the original website, and even then ...

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        • confusedmiddleageddad@mastodon.socialC confusedmiddleageddad@mastodon.social

          @Edent horrifying. But what is "legitimate interest" as distinct from other interest. I decline 'normal' cookies and then have to decline legitimate interest separately. The only legitimate interest I can ever think of might be the original website, and even then ...

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          @confusedMiddleAgedDad there's a good guide at
          https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/lawful-basis/legitimate-interests/what-is-the-legitimate-interests-basis/

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            @confusedMiddleAgedDad there's a good guide at
            https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/lawful-basis/legitimate-interests/what-is-the-legitimate-interests-basis/

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            @Edent looking at that I see many of these partners might claim legitimacy but I think many claims would clearly be very weak

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              @confusedMiddleAgedDad there's a good guide at
              https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/lawful-basis/legitimate-interests/what-is-the-legitimate-interests-basis/

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              @Edent thanks

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                @Edent 1637 is the highest I've had:

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                Attached: 1 image Have been noticing cookie pop ups with increasing and increasing numbers of "partners". This one is the new record I came across today. Beating the previous by 12. How the fuck does an organisation even properly vet 1637 partners to make sure they aren't evil? At least there's a reject all option. Anyone found a higher number of partners on a cookie pop up?

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                • quixoticgeek@social.v.stQ quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                  @Edent 1637 is the highest I've had:

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                  Attached: 1 image Have been noticing cookie pop ups with increasing and increasing numbers of "partners". This one is the new record I came across today. Beating the previous by 12. How the fuck does an organisation even properly vet 1637 partners to make sure they aren't evil? At least there's a reject all option. Anyone found a higher number of partners on a cookie pop up?

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                  @quixoticgeek @Edent Also something something legitimate interest

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                    @Edent uBlock stopped counting after it reached 1,000. can't remember which site exactly, i was in such shock, but i think it was for the Vogue Mag website.

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                    • confusedmiddleageddad@mastodon.socialC confusedmiddleageddad@mastodon.social

                      @Edent looking at that I see many of these partners might claim legitimacy but I think many claims would clearly be very weak

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                      @confusedMiddleAgedDad They are legitimately interested in selling your data

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                        @Edent more importantly, WTF is ‘legitimate interest’?

                        Like, at the most basic level, shouldn’t all requests for data be based ok a ‘legitimate interest’?

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                          @Edent 1400?

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                          • ttmevans@mstdn.socialT ttmevans@mstdn.social

                            @Edent more importantly, WTF is ‘legitimate interest’?

                            Like, at the most basic level, shouldn’t all requests for data be based ok a ‘legitimate interest’?

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                            @ttmevans @Edent https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/lawful-basis/legitimate-interests/what-is-the-legitimate-interests-basis/
                            And maybe they should, but 'consent' is another legal basis for data collection, which is why bad sites make consent easy and refusal clunky.

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                              @Edent edge Browser: 941

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                              • mjr@masto.bikeM mjr@masto.bike

                                @ttmevans @Edent https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/lawful-basis/legitimate-interests/what-is-the-legitimate-interests-basis/
                                And maybe they should, but 'consent' is another legal basis for data collection, which is why bad sites make consent easy and refusal clunky.

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                                @mjr @Edent I know there’s a technical definition. But Jesus, just stop it already. No one wants that shit.

                                When a lawyer asked why one of my sites had no cookie notice, and I simply told her there were no cookies, she actively disbelieved me.

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                                • ttmevans@mstdn.socialT ttmevans@mstdn.social

                                  @mjr @Edent I know there’s a technical definition. But Jesus, just stop it already. No one wants that shit.

                                  When a lawyer asked why one of my sites had no cookie notice, and I simply told her there were no cookies, she actively disbelieved me.

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                                  @ttmevans @Edent legal definition. Don't blame the technicians for this one !

                                  And that lawyer's comment is a sad indictment of how bad things are now.

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                                  • mjr@masto.bikeM mjr@masto.bike

                                    @ttmevans @Edent legal definition. Don't blame the technicians for this one !

                                    And that lawyer's comment is a sad indictment of how bad things are now.

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                                    @mjr @Edent TBF, I don’t see what most people actually get from the cookie world. Ad revenues are near nothing unless you’re very popular. We used a bit of Plausible code to measure basic stuff, and frankly it was more than enough analytics.

                                    And the kicker? Our (modest) social media spend had zero impact. But our (again, modest) traditional marketing, including print, was very effective.

                                    Maybe it was different before, but it’s all enshittified to the extreme now.

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                                    • ttmevans@mstdn.socialT ttmevans@mstdn.social

                                      @mjr @Edent TBF, I don’t see what most people actually get from the cookie world. Ad revenues are near nothing unless you’re very popular. We used a bit of Plausible code to measure basic stuff, and frankly it was more than enough analytics.

                                      And the kicker? Our (modest) social media spend had zero impact. But our (again, modest) traditional marketing, including print, was very effective.

                                      Maybe it was different before, but it’s all enshittified to the extreme now.

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                                      @ttmevans @mjr @Edent

                                      In what area is the business/shop? Interesting!

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                                        @Edent 1111 in Corriere della Sera (which I regularly open in an incognito window 🤷🏻‍♂️)

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          What's the largest number of "trusted partners" you've seen in a cookie consent pop-up?

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                                          @Edent 977 just yesterday. I’m in. Sounds lots more fun than collecting postal stamps.

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