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AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

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  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

    AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

    For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

    oay@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    #27

    @firefoxwebdevs the tiny minority of people who choose to use firefox at all dont want AI. it should be off by default if its being shoehorned in anyway, but since mozilla doesnt care the least they could do is not neuter the name.

    "kill switch" bites, "AI controls" licks

    EDIT: misread formally as formerly, still dont like this

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    • miller@ruhr.socialM miller@ruhr.social

      @mkj @firefoxwebdevs policy example:

      {
      "policies": {
      "DisableFirefoxStudies": true,
      "DisableTelemetry": true,
      "DontCheckDefaultBrowser": true,
      "FirefoxHome": {
      "SponsoredStories": false,
      "SponsoredTopSites": false,
      "Stories": false
      },
      "GenerativeAI": {
      "Enabled": false
      },
      "SearchEngines": {
      "Remove": [
      "Perplexity"
      ]
      }
      }
      }

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      #28

      @miller @mkj @firefoxwebdevs easy way would be to use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enterprise-policy-generator from https://mastodon.social/@s_hentzschel@agenedia.com

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      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

        AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

        For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

        mausmalone@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29

        @firefoxwebdevs Do you know if there will be a popup to let users know when it launches? (Like a product tour "what's new" type of thing?)

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        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

          AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

          For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

          thejacenallen@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @firefoxwebdevs boooo. AI shouldnt even be in the browser. Thats what the people told you.

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          • madduci@mastodon.socialM madduci@mastodon.social

            @firefoxwebdevs please, set the block as active by default and only set AI features as "opt-in"

            tay@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @madduci @firefoxwebdevs afaik the default is already opt in in a way - for example, the link summary feature asks you if you want to enable summarisation before actually doing anything.

            the point of the block is a browser wide, 'don't even ask' toggle

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            • plwt@mstdn.socialP plwt@mstdn.social

              @raymaccarthy @firefoxwebdevs You have never needed to use about:config. You can still quite happily browse the web using Firefox without going into about:config.

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              #32

              @plwt @firefoxwebdevs
              The word "happily" is out of context.

              I have used Chrome (Android/ChromeOS)_, Edge (windows), IE (various cursed versions on Windows) and Safari (Apple Things) to "browse the web" and get a different browser such as Firefox, seamonkey, Vivaldi, Waterfox, Chromium and others.

              I'd be on Vivaldi if about:config didn't exist. The only reason I'm not is more flexible script blocking on Firefox to suit TheGuardian web news.

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              • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

                blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #33

                🗣NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS AI BULLSHIT!!!

                you’re traitors to the open web cause. this should have been an extension, not a complete integration in the browser.

                @firefoxwebdevs

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                • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #34

                  @ArneBab but it doesn't enable future feature by default.

                  You're blocking the entry points to these features, so they cannot be enabled.

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                  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                    @plwt @firefoxwebdevs
                    The word "happily" is out of context.

                    I have used Chrome (Android/ChromeOS)_, Edge (windows), IE (various cursed versions on Windows) and Safari (Apple Things) to "browse the web" and get a different browser such as Firefox, seamonkey, Vivaldi, Waterfox, Chromium and others.

                    I'd be on Vivaldi if about:config didn't exist. The only reason I'm not is more flexible script blocking on Firefox to suit TheGuardian web news.

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                    #35

                    @raymaccarthy @firefoxwebdevs Keen to understand more - why do you need to block scripts to be able to view the Guardian website?

                    What happens when you try to view the page without this?

                    Is there any error message?

                    #fxhelp

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                    • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                      @plwt @firefoxwebdevs
                      The word "happily" is out of context.

                      I have used Chrome (Android/ChromeOS)_, Edge (windows), IE (various cursed versions on Windows) and Safari (Apple Things) to "browse the web" and get a different browser such as Firefox, seamonkey, Vivaldi, Waterfox, Chromium and others.

                      I'd be on Vivaldi if about:config didn't exist. The only reason I'm not is more flexible script blocking on Firefox to suit TheGuardian web news.

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                      #36

                      @raymaccarthy @plwt fwiw Vivaldi does have AI features like translation, and it even sends text to the cloud to perform that translation.

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                      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                        AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                        For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                        #37

                        @firefoxwebdevs

                        Immediately restore the work of japanese language translators that you paved over with AI slop

                        Link Preview Image
                        AI Controversy Forces End of Mozilla’s Japanese SUMO Community

                        The SUMO Japanese team quits en masse, accusing Mozilla’s AI system of erasing years of community translation work.

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                        Linuxiac (linuxiac.com)

                        #Firefox #Mozilla #Japanese #GenAI #AISlop #LLM

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                        • tay@tech.lgbtT tay@tech.lgbt

                          @madduci @firefoxwebdevs afaik the default is already opt in in a way - for example, the link summary feature asks you if you want to enable summarisation before actually doing anything.

                          the point of the block is a browser wide, 'don't even ask' toggle

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                          #38

                          @tay @madduci correct! You're blocking the entry points for these features, and features like it in future.

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                          • mausmalone@mastodon.socialM mausmalone@mastodon.social

                            @firefoxwebdevs Do you know if there will be a popup to let users know when it launches? (Like a product tour "what's new" type of thing?)

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                            #39

                            @mausmalone I don't think so. But of course it will be mentioned in release notes. We're not exactly being quiet about it.

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                              #40

                              @ArneBab We're stumbling on the wording here. 'Enabled' to many people means the feature is active. That's why we went with 'available' for features that aren't actively running, but their entry points are available.

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                              • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                                For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                                #41

                                @firefoxwebdevs AI crap like this has driven me back to using Lynx in the terminal for most of my browsing until I can find a browser not infected with Google, Apple, and now Firefox code. If I do need a graphic web browser I just us IronWolf and don't log into your account. I used to be a huge evangelist for your browser and other tools but no more. We have told you we don't want this, we want to support you and tell our friends to use you yet you make it impossible. For "Bob"'s sake LISTEN

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                                • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                  @mkj I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head, but I'll find out and get back to you.

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                                  #42

                                  @mkj the next major ESR release is 153.0esr. That will include all features between Fx140 and Fx153 and is scheduled to ship on 2026-06-21.

                                  In terms of policy: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2005805

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                                  • plwt@mstdn.socialP plwt@mstdn.social

                                    @raymaccarthy @firefoxwebdevs Keen to understand more - why do you need to block scripts to be able to view the Guardian website?

                                    What happens when you try to view the page without this?

                                    Is there any error message?

                                    #fxhelp

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                                    #43

                                    @plwt @firefoxwebdevs
                                    Because for security I block all 3rd party scripts that don't result in site breaking. Not about adverts per-se.

                                    The most likely route for malware today is 3rd party scripts. BBC & CNN have served them. That it often blocks adverts is a side effect. I'm not caring about adverts the actual site hosts.

                                    Vivaldi's blocker is all or nothing, so with script blocking there are pop-up banners and the fold V or close X is missing.

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                                      #44

                                      @enthusiast101 huh, I'm not seeing that error. Could it be because of an extension?

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                                      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                        AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.

                                        For the full details, see the Firefox blog https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/

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                                        #45

                                        @firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                        Won't see features
                                        I've seen that before with Brave. Their "complete removal of Leo" means "Remove UI elements from the user".

                                        I am not convinced.

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                                        • A ar_do@mstdn.social

                                          @firefoxwebdevs that being said, I actually love having local translation built into thr browser. It seems like the perfect use case for small language models that can be run on most laptops / desktop pcs today. Don't see a need to have the default setting to be off for that

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                                          #46

                                          @ar_do personally, I agree, but we'd have been accused of sneaking AI in if we didn't https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115849251057488746

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