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  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

    The results of the study.

    (Side note, compare the number of barriers to the number of whānau!)

    Our project was about democratising the use of data.

    Half of all requests (51.3%) were met with a barrier of some type.

    The number and spread shows it's not a single failure.

    Navigating the services was a significant component of demand.

    #KiaTikaKiaPono
    (No alt texts while I try to keep up, sorry)

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    #74

    Conclusions; navigator to help negotiate the systems can help. But they work _around_ highly complex systems. A locally designed system for a locally designed response is what's needed.

    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

      Conclusions; navigator to help negotiate the systems can help. But they work _around_ highly complex systems. A locally designed system for a locally designed response is what's needed.

      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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      #75

      "Don't do the wrong things righter, do fundamentally different things instead. "

      An excellent summary.

      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

        "Don't do the wrong things righter, do fundamentally different things instead. "

        An excellent summary.

        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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        Morning tea break, and not the purpose of today, but my god the brownie was divine 🤣

        Back to it now with a talk from Gareth Hughes entitled "A system is what a system does: Our unjust and unsustainable economy is not an accident; it is the result of deliberate decisions"

        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

          Morning tea break, and not the purpose of today, but my god the brownie was divine 🤣

          Back to it now with a talk from Gareth Hughes entitled "A system is what a system does: Our unjust and unsustainable economy is not an accident; it is the result of deliberate decisions"

          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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          #77

          "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

          It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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          • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

            The results of the study.

            (Side note, compare the number of barriers to the number of whānau!)

            Our project was about democratising the use of data.

            Half of all requests (51.3%) were met with a barrier of some type.

            The number and spread shows it's not a single failure.

            Navigating the services was a significant component of demand.

            #KiaTikaKiaPono
            (No alt texts while I try to keep up, sorry)

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            @Phil_Tanner do you know if this study has been published somewhere? I'd love to know more.

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            • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

              "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

              It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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              #79

              We're massively over producing food, but 20% of Kiwi kids are going hungry. It's a symptom of a broken system.

              Today we're in a poly-crisis. Everything is breaking down, and affecting ever other crisis.

              A study suggested two thirds of Kiwis are open to the idea of "violence may be needed to solve the problems we're facing".

              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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              • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                We're massively over producing food, but 20% of Kiwi kids are going hungry. It's a symptom of a broken system.

                Today we're in a poly-crisis. Everything is breaking down, and affecting ever other crisis.

                A study suggested two thirds of Kiwis are open to the idea of "violence may be needed to solve the problems we're facing".

                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                There is no point claiming the purpose of a system is to do what it consistently fails to do. A system is what it does.

                The economy is not a law of nature, it is a system designed to keep power concentrated.

                The economy is presented as an external force, we need to do X to appease it. It is us and our decisions we make. We designed it, we can redesign it. But the master's tools cannot dismantle the master's house.

                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                  There is no point claiming the purpose of a system is to do what it consistently fails to do. A system is what it does.

                  The economy is not a law of nature, it is a system designed to keep power concentrated.

                  The economy is presented as an external force, we need to do X to appease it. It is us and our decisions we make. We designed it, we can redesign it. But the master's tools cannot dismantle the master's house.

                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                  4 in 10 Kiwi kids in poverty have a parent in full time work.

                  History reminds us big changes can happen in short periods, the 1840s, the 1930s (welfare state), the 1980s (neoliberalism).

                  Even our once in a generation MMP parliament was constrained in what it could achieve in the benefits space by the rules imposed by the legislation imposed in the 1984 neoliberal era.

                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                    4 in 10 Kiwi kids in poverty have a parent in full time work.

                    History reminds us big changes can happen in short periods, the 1840s, the 1930s (welfare state), the 1980s (neoliberalism).

                    Even our once in a generation MMP parliament was constrained in what it could achieve in the benefits space by the rules imposed by the legislation imposed in the 1984 neoliberal era.

                    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                    We are literally at a fork in the road. We can't keep kicking the can down the road.

                    The Left needs a clear and powerful message. The Right blame the immigrants, a clear boogeyman. The Left need to point to the rich and wealthy to show why you can't afford your house.

                    [Second image] is a good metaphor for voyaging- we cant see where we're trying to get to [the islands of the future] but we're needed to make decisions now to guide us towards it regardless.

                    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                      We are literally at a fork in the road. We can't keep kicking the can down the road.

                      The Left needs a clear and powerful message. The Right blame the immigrants, a clear boogeyman. The Left need to point to the rich and wealthy to show why you can't afford your house.

                      [Second image] is a good metaphor for voyaging- we cant see where we're trying to get to [the islands of the future] but we're needed to make decisions now to guide us towards it regardless.

                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                      #83

                      These should be our way faring compass points (see previous toot) to guide us.

                      WEAll Aotearoa have released a blueprint for how to get there. Principles under each compass point.

                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                        These should be our way faring compass points (see previous toot) to guide us.

                        WEAll Aotearoa have released a blueprint for how to get there. Principles under each compass point.

                        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                        #84

                        Gosh he speaks fast, with so many good points, I really can't keep up.

                        Such a loss to our parliament.

                        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                          Gosh he speaks fast, with so many good points, I really can't keep up.

                          Such a loss to our parliament.

                          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                          #85

                          Final speaker, Carwyn Jones; 'Ko te kai a rangatira, he kōrero' - Listening for democracy in Aotearoa.

                          Starting with a beautifully fluent mihi in flawless and unhesitant Te Reo Māori.

                          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                          • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                            Final speaker, Carwyn Jones; 'Ko te kai a rangatira, he kōrero' - Listening for democracy in Aotearoa.

                            Starting with a beautifully fluent mihi in flawless and unhesitant Te Reo Māori.

                            #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                            This whakataukī is often translated as 'speech is the food of chiefs', but I think it's better to say 'discussion is the food of chiefs'. Discussion needs to hear the other side, not just to talk your own view over others.

                            The lack of listening is a part of our constitutional structure. We should reorganise that to be more a part of dialogue - as shown by Te Tiriti.

                            #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                            • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                              This whakataukī is often translated as 'speech is the food of chiefs', but I think it's better to say 'discussion is the food of chiefs'. Discussion needs to hear the other side, not just to talk your own view over others.

                              The lack of listening is a part of our constitutional structure. We should reorganise that to be more a part of dialogue - as shown by Te Tiriti.

                              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                              (He's just used "Tāngata Whenua, Tāngata Moana, and Tāngata Tiriti"... - it's the first time I've encountered this grouping, and the first time I've heard the middle group. Have to say, I'm a big fan)

                              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                              • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                (He's just used "Tāngata Whenua, Tāngata Moana, and Tāngata Tiriti"... - it's the first time I've encountered this grouping, and the first time I've heard the middle group. Have to say, I'm a big fan)

                                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                #88

                                (Side note, this talk is honestly fascinating and engaging, but the concepts are big and chunky, and I'm really struggling to distill down to Toot-bites, arohamai e te whānau ipurangi. ..)

                                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                  (Side note, this talk is honestly fascinating and engaging, but the concepts are big and chunky, and I'm really struggling to distill down to Toot-bites, arohamai e te whānau ipurangi. ..)

                                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                  The line the govt likes to take is that 'the people have spoken, we have a remit'. That view of democracy is very thin... anaemic.

                                  What are the mechanisms that enable us to shift and refocus to listening and dialogue?

                                  We've seen _many_ examples of unjust law making and undermine democracy. Skipping the select committee process removing the opportunity for public discussion intended to be part of that dialogue.

                                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                    The line the govt likes to take is that 'the people have spoken, we have a remit'. That view of democracy is very thin... anaemic.

                                    What are the mechanisms that enable us to shift and refocus to listening and dialogue?

                                    We've seen _many_ examples of unjust law making and undermine democracy. Skipping the select committee process removing the opportunity for public discussion intended to be part of that dialogue.

                                    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                    The standing up of the people select committees had been stood up to fill that gap. Demonstrating the power of listening, parliament have failed to listen.

                                    No consultation at all on the pay parity decision. No one campaigned on it, so no one voted for this, and there was no discussion. There is no discussion here, no listening.

                                    Numerous examples of official advice being ignored, recently the 'move on orders'. But many policies have been about removing community input ...

                                    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                      The standing up of the people select committees had been stood up to fill that gap. Demonstrating the power of listening, parliament have failed to listen.

                                      No consultation at all on the pay parity decision. No one campaigned on it, so no one voted for this, and there was no discussion. There is no discussion here, no listening.

                                      Numerous examples of official advice being ignored, recently the 'move on orders'. But many policies have been about removing community input ...

                                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                      ... into issues that directly impact them. There was no consultation, just a belief that the government knows best.

                                      98.7% of contributions to the Regulatory Standards Bill were against it. And yet the minister responsible for it showed contempt by refusing to engage with the concerns raised there. That's not engaging in discussion.

                                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                        ... into issues that directly impact them. There was no consultation, just a belief that the government knows best.

                                        98.7% of contributions to the Regulatory Standards Bill were against it. And yet the minister responsible for it showed contempt by refusing to engage with the concerns raised there. That's not engaging in discussion.

                                        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                        I am getting to some good news.. it doesn't need to be this way.

                                        We need to think about how we reorient ourselves if we do want a just society.

                                        Te Tiriti provides a model of how we can organise a model for collaborative public discussion. It envisages the ongoing sharing of different types of power between the Crown and tāngata whenua. Moves us away from a "govt knows best approach".

                                        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                          I am getting to some good news.. it doesn't need to be this way.

                                          We need to think about how we reorient ourselves if we do want a just society.

                                          Te Tiriti provides a model of how we can organise a model for collaborative public discussion. It envisages the ongoing sharing of different types of power between the Crown and tāngata whenua. Moves us away from a "govt knows best approach".

                                          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                          A constitution should be based on what is the right way to behave and engage (tikanga), and a value of community.

                                          While Māori representation in parliament is important, it is not decolonisation. It's an adornment to it.

                                          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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