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I'm a brit living in America.

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  • dtm@mastodon.ccD dtm@mastodon.cc

    @Cassman

    I don’t ever make a single cup of coffee so it’s never occurred to me to try, but at my old office I had a small 2 cup press and I used the instahot water dispenser because we didn’t have a kettle.

    I suppose I would go by a cheap electric kettle and be done with it.

    @virbonus @fesshole

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    @dtm @virbonus @fesshole so.. same with the tea. Kettle is best. 😀

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    • dtm@mastodon.ccD dtm@mastodon.cc

      @virbonus

      I wondered the same. It can’t affect the taste. Is it a principle thing? I boil a kettle on a stovetop every morning for coffee I make in a French press because that’s how I like to do it, but I’d microwave a cup of water for tea in a pinch.

      Also don’t really trust the hot water from the tap. Idk why.

      @fesshole

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      @dtm @virbonus @fesshole

      It really _does_ affect the taste.

      I suspect it's because boiling water in the microwave takes less time and doesn't induce convection currents so that the water retains more dissolved air than when boiled in a pot or a kettle, but that's just my personal theory.

      (Re-heating a cold cup of tea in the microwave is fine.)

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      • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

        @dtm @virbonus @fesshole

        It really _does_ affect the taste.

        I suspect it's because boiling water in the microwave takes less time and doesn't induce convection currents so that the water retains more dissolved air than when boiled in a pot or a kettle, but that's just my personal theory.

        (Re-heating a cold cup of tea in the microwave is fine.)

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        @skjeggtroll

        I’ll accept the premise that you believe it tastes different regardless of whether that’s factually correct, and that’s enough.

        Get an electric kettle, I say.

        @virbonus @fesshole

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        • C cassman@mastodon.social

          @dtm @virbonus @fesshole would you microwave the water for your coffee?

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          @Cassman @dtm @fesshole Again, why not? Hot water ist hot water. I've been known to microwave water for instant coffee in hotel rooms in emergencies, such as needing caffeine to make it to the breakfast room.

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          • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

            @dtm @virbonus @fesshole

            It really _does_ affect the taste.

            I suspect it's because boiling water in the microwave takes less time and doesn't induce convection currents so that the water retains more dissolved air than when boiled in a pot or a kettle, but that's just my personal theory.

            (Re-heating a cold cup of tea in the microwave is fine.)

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            @skjeggtroll @dtm @fesshole Sincerely doubt that. Solubility of air in water is a direct function of temperature. Of course one should make sure the water has time to equalize the temp.

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            • virbonus@sueden.socialV virbonus@sueden.social

              @skjeggtroll @dtm @fesshole Sincerely doubt that. Solubility of air in water is a direct function of temperature. Of course one should make sure the water has time to equalize the temp.

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              @virbonus @dtm @fesshole

              Yes, but it takes time for the system to reach equilibrium. A bottle of soda doesn't immediately go flat when you open it, after all, but retains its fizz for some time afterwards.

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              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.

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                @fesshole According to Mrs Beeton, you should be using water drawn freshly from the well to make tea ...

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                • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                  I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.

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                  @fesshole '"from barbarism to decadence without civilisation in between" is most frequently attributed to Oscar Wilde and Georges Clemenceau' about a hundred years ago. And it still applyies. Long Live America. I was a Brit living in Chicago for a year. Return home to a country with pedigree and standards.

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                  • virbonus@sueden.socialV virbonus@sueden.social

                    @fesshole Honest question: why not? The tea won't care how the water got hot.

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                    @virbonus @fesshole Tea is more than Tea.

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                    • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                      @virbonus @dtm @fesshole

                      Yes, but it takes time for the system to reach equilibrium. A bottle of soda doesn't immediately go flat when you open it, after all, but retains its fizz for some time afterwards.

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                      🤓 Damned internet. Now I need to conduct an experiment on the gustatory quality of #tea in conjunction with thermal preprocessing involving a stove pot, an electric kettle, and a microwave. 🤣

                      🫖 ⚗️🧑‍🔬 #science #humor

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                      • skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS skjeggtroll@mastodon.online

                        @virbonus @dtm @fesshole

                        Yes, but it takes time for the system to reach equilibrium. A bottle of soda doesn't immediately go flat when you open it, after all, but retains its fizz for some time afterwards.

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                        @skjeggtroll @virbonus @fesshole

                        This is the most Fediverse convo. The scientific quandary of boiling water using microwaves and the existential crisis of physics on the aesthetics of tea.

                        Judd Apatow tells the story of his mother when he was young. She was having financial difficulties after her divorce but still she went out and bought a Mercedes. Why, Judd asked? Why not get a Honda and have money left over?

                        “Because I’m not an animal,” she said.

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                        • virbonus@sueden.socialV virbonus@sueden.social

                          @kc @fesshole Use the microwave to boil water sometimes and live just fine, thanks for asking.

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                          @virbonus @kc @fesshole Actually, using a microwave for heating small amounts of water (like one cup) is even more energy-efficient than using a kettle. It’s fine!

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                            🤓 Damned internet. Now I need to conduct an experiment on the gustatory quality of #tea in conjunction with thermal preprocessing involving a stove pot, an electric kettle, and a microwave. 🤣

                            🫖 ⚗️🧑‍🔬 #science #humor

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                            @oliver_schafeld And how do you intend to measure "gustatory quality"?

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                            • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                              I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.

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                              @fesshole

                              US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.

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                                @fesshole

                                US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.

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                                @jeremy_pm @fesshole And it's actually this that makes the US a hellscape.

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                                • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                                  @jeremy_pm @fesshole And it's actually this that makes the US a hellscape.

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                                  @drewtowler @fesshole

                                  Some people naively think it’s the school shootings, police brutality and endless wars that make US a hellscape when what it really boils down to is not being able to make a nice cup of tea. /s

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                                  • jeremy_pm@mastodon.nzJ jeremy_pm@mastodon.nz

                                    @fesshole

                                    US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.

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                                    @jeremy_pm @fesshole I had an electric kettle in my dorm room when I studied there. Bought it at Walgreens. It was slower but far from unusable.

                                    One could, of course, try drawing twice the current to achieve the same power... but the wiring isn't of a markedly heavier gauge. Landlords widely prohibit extension cords for this reason.

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                                    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                      I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.

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                                      @fesshole looking through the comments, this is the new milk in first argument.

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                                      • libroraptor@mastodon.nzL libroraptor@mastodon.nz

                                        @jeremy_pm @fesshole I had an electric kettle in my dorm room when I studied there. Bought it at Walgreens. It was slower but far from unusable.

                                        One could, of course, try drawing twice the current to achieve the same power... but the wiring isn't of a markedly heavier gauge. Landlords widely prohibit extension cords for this reason.

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                                        @libroraptor @fesshole

                                        Yes I imagine efficiency is the reason most US households don’t use electric kettles and instead use stovetop kettles.

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                                        • jeremy_pm@mastodon.nzJ jeremy_pm@mastodon.nz

                                          @drewtowler @fesshole

                                          Some people naively think it’s the school shootings, police brutality and endless wars that make US a hellscape when what it really boils down to is not being able to make a nice cup of tea. /s

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                                          @jeremy_pm @drewtowler @fesshole the school shootings, police brutality and endless wars are a direct consequence of not being able to make a nice cup of tea

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