I'm a brit living in America.
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It really _does_ affect the taste.
I suspect it's because boiling water in the microwave takes less time and doesn't induce convection currents so that the water retains more dissolved air than when boiled in a pot or a kettle, but that's just my personal theory.
(Re-heating a cold cup of tea in the microwave is fine.)
@skjeggtroll @dtm @fesshole Sincerely doubt that. Solubility of air in water is a direct function of temperature. Of course one should make sure the water has time to equalize the temp.
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@skjeggtroll @dtm @fesshole Sincerely doubt that. Solubility of air in water is a direct function of temperature. Of course one should make sure the water has time to equalize the temp.
Yes, but it takes time for the system to reach equilibrium. A bottle of soda doesn't immediately go flat when you open it, after all, but retains its fizz for some time afterwards.
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I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.
@fesshole According to Mrs Beeton, you should be using water drawn freshly from the well to make tea ...
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I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.
@fesshole '"from barbarism to decadence without civilisation in between" is most frequently attributed to Oscar Wilde and Georges Clemenceau' about a hundred years ago. And it still applyies. Long Live America. I was a Brit living in Chicago for a year. Return home to a country with pedigree and standards.
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@fesshole Honest question: why not? The tea won't care how the water got hot.
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Damned internet. Now I need to conduct an experiment on the gustatory quality of #tea in conjunction with thermal preprocessing involving a stove pot, an electric kettle, and a microwave. 
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This is the most Fediverse convo. The scientific quandary of boiling water using microwaves and the existential crisis of physics on the aesthetics of tea.
Judd Apatow tells the story of his mother when he was young. She was having financial difficulties after her divorce but still she went out and bought a Mercedes. Why, Judd asked? Why not get a Honda and have money left over?
“Because I’m not an animal,” she said.
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@oliver_schafeld And how do you intend to measure "gustatory quality"?
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I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.
US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.
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US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.
@jeremy_pm @fesshole And it's actually this that makes the US a hellscape.
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@jeremy_pm @fesshole And it's actually this that makes the US a hellscape.
Some people naively think it’s the school shootings, police brutality and endless wars that make US a hellscape when what it really boils down to is not being able to make a nice cup of tea. /s
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US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.
@jeremy_pm @fesshole I had an electric kettle in my dorm room when I studied there. Bought it at Walgreens. It was slower but far from unusable.
One could, of course, try drawing twice the current to achieve the same power... but the wiring isn't of a markedly heavier gauge. Landlords widely prohibit extension cords for this reason.
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I'm a brit living in America. At my office there's no kettle, but we have a hot water dispenser. Today it's broken. When I lamented I can't make a cup of tea, a colleague suggested I microwave the water. Trump is not the only thing that makes this place a hellscape.
@fesshole looking through the comments, this is the new milk in first argument.
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@jeremy_pm @fesshole I had an electric kettle in my dorm room when I studied there. Bought it at Walgreens. It was slower but far from unusable.
One could, of course, try drawing twice the current to achieve the same power... but the wiring isn't of a markedly heavier gauge. Landlords widely prohibit extension cords for this reason.
Yes I imagine efficiency is the reason most US households don’t use electric kettles and instead use stovetop kettles.
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Some people naively think it’s the school shootings, police brutality and endless wars that make US a hellscape when what it really boils down to is not being able to make a nice cup of tea. /s
@jeremy_pm @drewtowler @fesshole the school shootings, police brutality and endless wars are a direct consequence of not being able to make a nice cup of tea
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US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.
@jeremy_pm and yet even on 110V the electric kettle is quicker than the stovetop kettle: https://youtu.be/_yMMTVVJI4c
(Though induction stoves may be quicker.)
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US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.
@jeremy_pm @fesshole @TechConnectify has a whole video devoted to debunking this myth!
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US doesn’t have electric kettles to boil water because they have lower voltage 110-120V compared to 220-240V in Europe and most of the world, making kettles slow or unable to boil water sufficiently.
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Belgian living in US. We have an electrical kettle and it works just fine. Don't see a noticeable difference in heating time to 220V.
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@proedie are you sure about that? https://insideenergy.org/2016/02/23/boiling-water-ieq/ seems to suggest otherwise.
Even though the 500ml used in above test is about double of a cup, I find it difficult to imagine that that volume difference would be enough to overcome the energy efficiency difference of 50% for the microwave vs the 80% efficiency of an electric teakettle.Though being able to wait for the water to boil may be more efficient in the long term since I don't risk forgetting I have put the kettle on
But perhaps switching to an induction stove with a 'traditional' kettle with a whistle may solve that by needing to turn off the source of the noise
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