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  3. so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

    Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

    It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

    So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

    foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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    I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

    well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

    foone@digipres.clubF kewliomzx@kind.socialK nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN pjakobs@mastodon.greenP wyatt@soc.megatokyo.moeW 7 Replies Last reply
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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

      Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

      It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

      So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

      moftasa@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
      moftasa@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @foone usb flash drive?

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

        well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

        foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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        so probably I copy over something that'll let me null-modem the serial to my main laptop

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        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

          so probably I copy over something that'll let me null-modem the serial to my main laptop

          foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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          if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

          but I don't

          tecteun@mastodon.socialT krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.orgM foone@digipres.clubF 4 Replies Last reply
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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

            Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

            It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

            So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

            pjakobs@mastodon.greenP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @foone I wonder if 10 diskettes are really slower than a USB 1 CDROM

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            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

              so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

              Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

              It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

              So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

              vaporeon_@glaceon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              @foone Maybe file transfer over the serial port? Probably slow, but at least you don't have to manually write 10 floppies that way...

              (I haven't tried it yet, but I do want to try it with a computer that I have that doesn't have Ethernet, at some point.)

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              • moftasa@mastodon.onlineM moftasa@mastodon.online

                @foone usb flash drive?

                foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @moftasa it can't boot off USB, so I'd need to move something via floppy that can talk USB

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                  well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

                  kewliomzx@kind.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @foone Shot in the dark, but would Plop Boot Manager work? I think it might be possible to chainload USB with it.

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                  • pjakobs@mastodon.greenP pjakobs@mastodon.green

                    @foone I wonder if 10 diskettes are really slower than a USB 1 CDROM

                    foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @pjakobs it has a REALLY SLOW floppy drive

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                    • moftasa@mastodon.onlineM moftasa@mastodon.online

                      @foone usb flash drive?

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                      @foone or may be a floppy disk linux distro like Hal 91 would let you access the USB drive .. I don't know, you are the pro.

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                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                        if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                        but I don't

                        tecteun@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @foone can't you just take out the hdd and dd an image?

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                        • kewliomzx@kind.socialK kewliomzx@kind.social

                          @foone Shot in the dark, but would Plop Boot Manager work? I think it might be possible to chainload USB with it.

                          foone@digipres.clubF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @kewliomzx I don't think so, because the BIOS doesn't know how to talk to a USB storage device at all. and I think plop would just be able to chainload to any device the BIOS can talk to

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                          • tecteun@mastodon.socialT tecteun@mastodon.social

                            @foone can't you just take out the hdd and dd an image?

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                            @tecteun don't have the correct adapters handy, it's using a 44pin IDE hard drive

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                              Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                              It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                              So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

                              irix@cloudisland.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @foone If you have the kit -
                              * Parallel port hard-drive or cdrom
                              * PCMCIA SCSI cdrom
                              * Remove the disk, mount it on another machine and dump the install files on there, put it back in the laptop, mount the disk and run the install process

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                                but I don't

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                                @foone Check the BIOS of the machine; You might be able to tell it to expose USB Mass Storage devices as Hard Drives. If you can, then you should be able to plug in a thumb drive with your files on it before booting, assuming you have DOS installed already.

                                Otherwise, https://bretjohnson.us/ exists as well, which is USB Drivers for DOS.

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                                  but I don't

                                  mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @foone there’s probably a ”linux on a couple of diskettes” thing you can use

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                                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                    I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                                    well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

                                    nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @foone there is a USB stack for DOS. Also, KolibriOS has a USB stack that should be supported. Either are going to be just one floppy

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                                      Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                                      It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                                      So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

                                      thygrrr@tiggi.esT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @foone the old DOS versions of Laplink or clones thereof were good for that purpose.

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        @pjakobs it has a REALLY SLOW floppy drive

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                                        @foone but as slow as 12MBit/s?
                                        hmm... 12Mbit/s is a raw 1.5MByte/s - that's at least more raw bandwith. A 1x CDROM does 300kByte/s so you would be able to run a 4x probably, yes, that should be faster than any floppy.
                                        The things we used to put up with back then!

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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                                          well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

                                          pjakobs@mastodon.greenP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @foone freedos might do that, no?

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