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  3. so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

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  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

    so probably I copy over something that'll let me null-modem the serial to my main laptop

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    if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

    but I don't

    tecteun@mastodon.socialT krutonium@social.treehouse.systemsK mikaeleiman@mastodon.sdf.orgM foone@digipres.clubF 4 Replies Last reply
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    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

      so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

      Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

      It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

      So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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      @foone I wonder if 10 diskettes are really slower than a USB 1 CDROM

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      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

        so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

        Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

        It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

        So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

        vaporeon_@glaceon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        @foone Maybe file transfer over the serial port? Probably slow, but at least you don't have to manually write 10 floppies that way...

        (I haven't tried it yet, but I do want to try it with a computer that I have that doesn't have Ethernet, at some point.)

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        • moftasa@mastodon.onlineM moftasa@mastodon.online

          @foone usb flash drive?

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          @moftasa it can't boot off USB, so I'd need to move something via floppy that can talk USB

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          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

            I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

            well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

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            @foone Shot in the dark, but would Plop Boot Manager work? I think it might be possible to chainload USB with it.

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            • pjakobs@mastodon.greenP pjakobs@mastodon.green

              @foone I wonder if 10 diskettes are really slower than a USB 1 CDROM

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              @pjakobs it has a REALLY SLOW floppy drive

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              • moftasa@mastodon.onlineM moftasa@mastodon.online

                @foone usb flash drive?

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                @foone or may be a floppy disk linux distro like Hal 91 would let you access the USB drive .. I don't know, you are the pro.

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                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                  if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                  but I don't

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                  @foone can't you just take out the hdd and dd an image?

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                  • kewliomzx@kind.socialK kewliomzx@kind.social

                    @foone Shot in the dark, but would Plop Boot Manager work? I think it might be possible to chainload USB with it.

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                    @kewliomzx I don't think so, because the BIOS doesn't know how to talk to a USB storage device at all. and I think plop would just be able to chainload to any device the BIOS can talk to

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                    • tecteun@mastodon.socialT tecteun@mastodon.social

                      @foone can't you just take out the hdd and dd an image?

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                      @tecteun don't have the correct adapters handy, it's using a 44pin IDE hard drive

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                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                        so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                        Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                        It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                        So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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                        @foone If you have the kit -
                        * Parallel port hard-drive or cdrom
                        * PCMCIA SCSI cdrom
                        * Remove the disk, mount it on another machine and dump the install files on there, put it back in the laptop, mount the disk and run the install process

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                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                          if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                          but I don't

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                          @foone Check the BIOS of the machine; You might be able to tell it to expose USB Mass Storage devices as Hard Drives. If you can, then you should be able to plug in a thumb drive with your files on it before booting, assuming you have DOS installed already.

                          Otherwise, https://bretjohnson.us/ exists as well, which is USB Drivers for DOS.

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                          • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                            if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                            but I don't

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                            @foone there’s probably a ”linux on a couple of diskettes” thing you can use

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                            • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                              I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                              well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

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                              @foone there is a USB stack for DOS. Also, KolibriOS has a USB stack that should be supported. Either are going to be just one floppy

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                              • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                so I need to install DOS, windows 3.1, Print Shop Deluxe III, and a printer driver onto this Pentium II laptop.

                                Difficulty: The system has a dead CD-ROM drive. It does have a floppy drive, however... but that's a lot to move via floppy.

                                It's a win98-era laptop. It has USB, serial, parallel, PS/2, dual PCMCIA slots, floppy, DVD (broken), and a docking connector.

                                So now my challenge is: How do I get this software onto the machine without having to slowly write something like 10 floppy disks?

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                                @foone the old DOS versions of Laplink or clones thereof were good for that purpose.

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                                • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                  @pjakobs it has a REALLY SLOW floppy drive

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                                  @foone but as slow as 12MBit/s?
                                  hmm... 12Mbit/s is a raw 1.5MByte/s - that's at least more raw bandwith. A 1x CDROM does 300kByte/s so you would be able to run a 4x probably, yes, that should be faster than any floppy.
                                  The things we used to put up with back then!

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                                  • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                    I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                                    well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

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                                    @foone freedos might do that, no?

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                                    • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                      if I had access to my PCMCIA cards I could plug in an ethernet card and network stuff over.

                                      but I don't

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                                      did my USB floppy drive just die on me?!

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                                      • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                        I don't know if there's any software I could install that'd let me use the USB ports.

                                        well, any software short of Win98. I'd love to have win98 on here, but HOW DO IT GET IT OVER THERE?

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                                        @foone ethernet pcmcia or cardbus card
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                                        • foone@digipres.clubF foone@digipres.club

                                          did my USB floppy drive just die on me?!

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                                          I'll have to switch to one of my many other USB floppy drives.

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