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What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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  • letsbeworms@brain.worm.pinkL letsbeworms@brain.worm.pink
    @futurebird

    no idea but it makes me think of a pickup truck with a 1m long slide rule in the gun rack for the mathematicians doing sum serious calculatin' out in the back woods
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    @letsbeworms @futurebird

    Never belittle the physics that has sprung from males in pickup trucks in the woods. If they need defense rulers to dress a moose, give 'em. Who knows what quantum hyperspace they'll do?

    In Hi Skool, science teacher explained math of pulleys, blocks-and-tackle, etc. She asked JimmaJo how that might be useful. He said, "I guess if you're in the woods and your truck got stuck in mud, you could wrap a rope around a tree and use it to pull the truck out." True story!

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @MokhtarStork

      The edge is blunt and it's rather thick.

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      @futurebird I understand, however, the handle creates the impression of a knife when its not.

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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        @futurebird But will it protect effectively against someone with an offense protractor?

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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          @futurebird 😳

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          • letsbeworms@brain.worm.pinkL letsbeworms@brain.worm.pink
            @futurebird

            no idea but it makes me think of a pickup truck with a 1m long slide rule in the gun rack for the mathematicians doing sum serious calculatin' out in the back woods
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            @letsbeworms @futurebird ah yes the ford range

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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              @futurebird I can totally see that used for epic battles between Metric System supporters and Banana-for-scale System defenders.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                @michael_w_busch

                why not just have a blunt sword?

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                @futurebird

                I am guessing that this is a way to try to get around rules about concealed weapons.

                (When I was training in kendo; we had to be careful to not violate those rules when carrying blunt training blades in gym bags.)

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                • eliterrell@mastodon.socialE eliterrell@mastodon.social

                  @WesternInfidels @futurebird @vfrmedia Assault ruler.

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                  @eliterrell @WesternInfidels @futurebird @vfrmedia I remember in the 80s there was a Rambo-based trend for combat knives with “survival” tools built in like a saw blade, fishing kit, matches, etc. and many had a ruler printed on the blade and listed as a feature. Like wow in case of life-threatening emergency you can measure something up to five inches long!

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                  • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                    @futurebird

                    I am guessing that this is a way to try to get around rules about concealed weapons.

                    (When I was training in kendo; we had to be careful to not violate those rules when carrying blunt training blades in gym bags.)

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                    @michael_w_busch @futurebird

                    I've never bought a pair of brass knuckles in my life, but I have bought a few paperweights that looked remarkably similar in form and were made of brass.
                    I wonder if that's what's happening here?

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                    • helplessduck@beige.partyH helplessduck@beige.party

                      @michael_w_busch @futurebird

                      I've never bought a pair of brass knuckles in my life, but I have bought a few paperweights that looked remarkably similar in form and were made of brass.
                      I wonder if that's what's happening here?

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                      @helplessduck @futurebird

                      There is similar rules-skirting with "high power narrow beam flashlights" that are very obviously actually dangerously bright laser pointers.

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                      • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                        @helplessduck @futurebird

                        There is similar rules-skirting with "high power narrow beam flashlights" that are very obviously actually dangerously bright laser pointers.

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                        @michael_w_busch @futurebird

                        I carry something that is very obviously a club in my car. It's a miniature bat, and I absolutely can't carry that around with me on the street. After some cursory searching, I'm questioning whether having it in my car is even legal in North Carolina.

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          @vfrmedia

                          Well as an American I don't want a wimpy "defense ruler" I want an "attack ruler"

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                          @futurebird somehow my first thought of an "attack ruler" is like a slide rule of some kind...

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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                            @futurebird
                            Seems very similar to the "tactical umbrella" to me. 🤔

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                            The UZI tactical telescopic safety umbrella is a self-defense tool, giving you the chance to fend off an unexpected attack

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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                              @futurebird holy trucknuts this is so much worse than i thought when i saw the imageless post on atproto
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                                @futurebird holy trucknuts this is so much worse than i thought when i saw the imageless post on atproto
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                                @ophis

                                I mean... I am passionate about the metric system.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  @ophis

                                  I mean... I am passionate about the metric system.

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                                  @futurebird ::looks more closely:: ...

                                  (then again i guess they could be going with metric for that pseudo-military tacticalness)
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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    What in the name of EDC nonsense is a "defense ruler" ?

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                                    @futurebird

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                                    "I don't always stab people. But when I do, I want to know how deep it went."

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                                    • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                      @futurebird most of them I have seen are simply a 50cm ruler of thicker metal (about 3-5mm) with a tassel on the end.

                                      I suppose you *could* use it as some kind of ninja weapon if you wanted, but I suspect the Chinese are having a good laugh at the expense of American bros - especially for those rulers which have had the extra bits added (which makes them less useful as the handle won't lie flat) and are sold at premium prices - you can get the basic ruler for £10 and to be fair that does seem a bit more practical as an actual ruler.

                                      Maybe it will even encourage Americans to use metric more😁

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                                      @vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de @futurebird@sauropods.win the thickness also make it hard to measure precisely. if you want a weapon just get an actual stick 🤷‍♂️

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                                      • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                        @futurebird most of them I have seen are simply a 50cm ruler of thicker metal (about 3-5mm) with a tassel on the end.

                                        I suppose you *could* use it as some kind of ninja weapon if you wanted, but I suspect the Chinese are having a good laugh at the expense of American bros - especially for those rulers which have had the extra bits added (which makes them less useful as the handle won't lie flat) and are sold at premium prices - you can get the basic ruler for £10 and to be fair that does seem a bit more practical as an actual ruler.

                                        Maybe it will even encourage Americans to use metric more😁

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                                        @vfrmedia @futurebird I'm no lawyer but it certainly seems an invitation to a spirited interrogation of the Criminal Justice Act 1988.

                                        I know from personal experience that metal rules _can_ be sharp, without any sharpening, and those ‘rulers’ picture sure seem to have a _point_, be longer than three inches, and not fold.

                                        That they are sold as ‘defense’ rulers not something like ‘rugged’ would seem to undermine most ‘it's for work’ arguments, like the intent here is clearly to be a weapon?

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                                        • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

                                          @vfrmedia @futurebird I'm no lawyer but it certainly seems an invitation to a spirited interrogation of the Criminal Justice Act 1988.

                                          I know from personal experience that metal rules _can_ be sharp, without any sharpening, and those ‘rulers’ picture sure seem to have a _point_, be longer than three inches, and not fold.

                                          That they are sold as ‘defense’ rulers not something like ‘rugged’ would seem to undermine most ‘it's for work’ arguments, like the intent here is clearly to be a weapon?

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                                          @zbrown @futurebird

                                          the two on the left would be problematic here in UK. The right hand two (which are also advertised just as normal ruler) would be less so, depending how they were carried - they do have legit uses such as where a thinner ruler would bend and make the measurements inaccurate by a few mm - although maybe more suitable for the workshop or in a toolbox in the back of your car than in the door card (what the old bill here are concerned about is someone getting in a road rage incident and picking up an easy to hand weapon on impulse)

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