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Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

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  • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

    Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

    "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

    And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

    What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

    ceciestmontpouet@piaille.frC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ploum Yes but Frigidaire.

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    • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

      Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

      "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

      And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

      What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

      mrzool@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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      mrzool@mastodon.online
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      @ploum we europeans do this too, just with our own brands

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      • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

        Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

        "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

        And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

        What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

        polypunk@punkstodon.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ploum I think they call this habit "StoopidMaxxing" nowadays.

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        • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

          Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

          "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

          And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

          What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

          cerement@social.targaryen.houseC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ploum

          “genericization” or “trademark erosion” – when a brand name becomes so common, it can no longer be registered as a trademark and it becomes much harder to enforce proprietary rights

          Link Preview Image
          Generic trademark - Wikipedia

          favicon

          (en.wikipedia.org)

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          • ceciestmontpouet@piaille.frC ceciestmontpouet@piaille.fr

            @ploum Yes but Frigidaire.

            crocmagnon@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ceciestmontpouet @ploum Sopalin, Kleenex, …
            J’en ai découvert des dizaines d’autres par ici :
            https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_marques_utilisées_comme_noms

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            • ceciestmontpouet@piaille.frC ceciestmontpouet@piaille.fr

              @ploum Yes but Frigidaire.

              petitevieille@mamot.frP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ceciestmontpouet

              @ploum

              Je me faisais cette réflexion aussi en rentrant du Shopi sur ma Motobécane pour remplir mon frigo.

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              • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

                praxeology@post.lurk.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @ploum It's been going on for a long time but the brand-centric worldview seems to have gotten worse.

                I get the impression, thanks especially to ad-based and influence-based social media forms, that many people have started to lose faith in learning about actual things. Instead, they develop a sad perspective that the only knowledge worth having is which brands are the most popular.

                Journalists seem especially susceptible - they seem to think that as reporters of the Zeitgeist they must always reference specific brands, especially platforms, instead of generic techniques or devices.

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                • praxeology@post.lurk.orgP praxeology@post.lurk.org

                  @ploum It's been going on for a long time but the brand-centric worldview seems to have gotten worse.

                  I get the impression, thanks especially to ad-based and influence-based social media forms, that many people have started to lose faith in learning about actual things. Instead, they develop a sad perspective that the only knowledge worth having is which brands are the most popular.

                  Journalists seem especially susceptible - they seem to think that as reporters of the Zeitgeist they must always reference specific brands, especially platforms, instead of generic techniques or devices.

                  praxeology@post.lurk.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ploum But ironically, brands seem more meaningless now that they have since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Most big companies don't produce or develop their own products. They just call around to find whatever factory has the best (i.e. cheapest (i.e. most explotative)) conditions and send a PDF with a logo to slap on the side.

                  (yes, I'm oversimplifying this but the basic notion is not far off)

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                  • mrzool@mastodon.onlineM mrzool@mastodon.online

                    @ploum we europeans do this too, just with our own brands

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                    @mrzool
                    Pas seulement, malheureusement

                    Word , Excel , PowerPoint
                    Au lieu de
                    Traitement de texte, Tableur, logiciel de présentation
                    Etc. ..😟

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                    • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                      Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                      "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                      And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                      What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

                      kay@mastodon.nzK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ploum calling a singlet a "wifebeater" is ick too. 🤢

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                      • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                        Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                        "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                        And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                        What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

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                        @ploum Dans ces trois exemples, il s'agit de commerces. Ils sont organisés en chaînes sous une marque aux USA et chaque chaîne a plus ou moins un monopole sur un produit (ce qui est un autre problème). En France aussi, mais moins.
                        Les français ne vont pas dire je vais "chez Zurf" (Home depot) mais bien "chez Leroy-Merlin" ou "au Casto". Pareil pour les hamburgers, ils disent "je vais au McDo". C'est pareil.

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                        • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                          Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                          "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                          And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                          What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

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                          @ploum It reminds me the Restaurant in Demolition Man (with a different brand for US and Europe)

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                          • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                            Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                            "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                            And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                            What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

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                            @ploum
                            My pet peeve about USA'ans on the interwebs: the/our national ...

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                            • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                              Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                              "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                              And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                              What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

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                              #15

                              @ploum

                              The facts its hundreds of miles to the other side of the state in most cases always sharnk their world view

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                              • kay@mastodon.nzK kay@mastodon.nz

                                @ploum calling a singlet a "wifebeater" is ick too. 🤢

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                                @Kay @ploum Correlation is not causation, but in significant parts of the US the correlation is depressingly high for that particular piece of clothing.

                                That said, the correlation between suit-wearing political actors and pedophilia is also higher than average as well

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                                • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                                  Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                                  "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                                  And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                                  What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

                                  levitte@mastodon.nuL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @ploum
                                  M'ouai, bon, rien de nouveau, là.

                                  Allez hop, faut que je passes un wettex dans ma cuisine, et que je scotches deux pages dans ce livre qui tombe en morceaux ...

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                                  • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                                    Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                                    "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                                    And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                                    What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

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                                    sunflowerinrain@mastodon.online
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                                    @ploum
                                    Grr. Fight the branding.

                                    I call my electric dust-slurping machines vacuum cleaners, even the one that was made by Hoover.

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                                    • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                                      Americans don’t realize how weird they sounds to non-Americans when they use brands instead of proper name.

                                      "No ManlyFit today, as I’ll go to Zurf and will have a Smith&Benny."

                                      And we are supposed to understand you don’t go to gym because you need to buy some hardware and will have an ice-cream afterward.

                                      What is striking is how reducing their language to brands (that non-US don’t even know about) is shrinking their worldview…

                                      nathan@ublog.hurel.meN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @ploum@mamot.fr je vais à l'accor hôtel arena VS je vais à Bercy #NoLogo

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