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When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

    • Official identification of every adult using social media.

    • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

    • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

    • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

    • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

    • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

    • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

    • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

    • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

    • The list goes on and on.

    This isn't about protecting the children.
    It never was.

    Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

    Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

    The future depends on us.

    #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

    anton@99finches.comA This user is from outside of this forum
    anton@99finches.comA This user is from outside of this forum
    anton@99finches.com
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    #3
    @Em0nM4stodon if they cared about the well-being of children and developmental problems with being exposed to the the internet they'd be talking about different thing.

    You'd want to make the internet less addictive and dangerous, by limiting ad-tracking and algorithmic systems the incentivize mass data harvesting. Force public-facing spaces to effectively moderate to keep from being dangerous to children.

    You'd want to make the material environment more hospitable to doing anything other than sitting inside on a computer all day. Limiting cars so it's safe to be outside, promoting public parks, social programs and child-friendly public events.
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    • anton@99finches.comA anton@99finches.com
      @Em0nM4stodon if they cared about the well-being of children and developmental problems with being exposed to the the internet they'd be talking about different thing.

      You'd want to make the internet less addictive and dangerous, by limiting ad-tracking and algorithmic systems the incentivize mass data harvesting. Force public-facing spaces to effectively moderate to keep from being dangerous to children.

      You'd want to make the material environment more hospitable to doing anything other than sitting inside on a computer all day. Limiting cars so it's safe to be outside, promoting public parks, social programs and child-friendly public events.
      codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
      codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
      codinghorror@infosec.exchange
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      @anton @Em0nM4stodon ok but what about our complicity here? Everyone wants “free” services that they don’t have to pay for. What is the actual price for that?

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

        • Official identification of every adult using social media.

        • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

        • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

        • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

        • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

        • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

        • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

        • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

        • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

        • The list goes on and on.

        This isn't about protecting the children.
        It never was.

        Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

        Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

        The future depends on us.

        #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

        thestonedonkey@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
        thestonedonkey@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
        thestonedonkey@beige.party
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        #5

        @Em0nM4stodon they day I have to provide ID to use your service is the day I cancel, it's pretty simple.

        mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM miroul@mastodon.socialM 2 Replies Last reply
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        • jon@domum.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jon@domum.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jon@domum.social
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          #6

          @anarchademic @Em0nM4stodon

          This is why I build https://mastodon.social.

          It's pretty straight Mastodon but all authenticated traffic it through #Tor and no email addresses are collected.

          So there's nothing beyond the public posts to identify users. What you put in a public post can be much more identifying that you may think but at least with this model full control is with the user the service doesn't need to know anything extra

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

            • Official identification of every adult using social media.

            • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

            • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

            • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

            • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

            • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

            • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

            • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

            • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

            • The list goes on and on.

            This isn't about protecting the children.
            It never was.

            Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

            Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

            The future depends on us.

            #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

            evelynoctavia@c.imE This user is from outside of this forum
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            evelynoctavia@c.im
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            #7

            @Em0nM4stodon ah yes, i also anonymize myself throughout social media to protect my privacy

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            • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

              @anton @Em0nM4stodon ok but what about our complicity here? Everyone wants “free” services that they don’t have to pay for. What is the actual price for that?

              anton@99finches.comA This user is from outside of this forum
              anton@99finches.comA This user is from outside of this forum
              anton@99finches.com
              wrote last edited by
              #8
              @codinghorror @Em0nM4stodon The problems of algorithmic tracking and individual micro-targeting are distinct and much more pernicious than the problems of ad-supported media in general

              Long term the project of 99finches is to convince local businesses in Iowa to advertise here instead of on platforms that have been proven in open court to have screwed over their business clients on ad purchases. Then use that revenue to pay people in Iowa to do the long-term work needed to make the Fediverse a serious threat to big tech.
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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

                • Official identification of every adult using social media.

                • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

                • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

                • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

                • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

                • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

                • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

                • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

                • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

                • The list goes on and on.

                This isn't about protecting the children.
                It never was.

                Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

                Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

                The future depends on us.

                #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                inchulk@mastodon.greenI This user is from outside of this forum
                inchulk@mastodon.greenI This user is from outside of this forum
                inchulk@mastodon.green
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                #9

                @Em0nM4stodon If it was illegal for social media companies to use and sell personal details, then the lobby (funded secretly by Meta, Google, Apple) for removal of privacy would evaporate.
                Children are not protected by revealing full ID info by everyone, that is a lie.

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

                  • Official identification of every adult using social media.

                  • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

                  • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

                  • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

                  • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

                  • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

                  • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

                  • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

                  • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

                  • The list goes on and on.

                  This isn't about protecting the children.
                  It never was.

                  Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

                  Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

                  The future depends on us.

                  #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                  mage_of_chaos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mage_of_chaos@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mage_of_chaos@mastodon.social
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                  #10

                  @Em0nM4stodon THE INTERNET IS RAN BY THE GOVERNMENT, DUDE. No ones banning anyone and your legal identity being tied to a public display name that ISN'T a legal identity is absolutely NOT a danger to the public. You're being EXTREMELY counter productive and making it look like YOU use the internet to harbor fugitives who are banned from use of the internet for BEING dangerous to those groups you just mentioned ON THE INTERNET. People get banned from the public domain when they become offenders.

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

                    • Official identification of every adult using social media.

                    • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

                    • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

                    • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

                    • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

                    • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

                    • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

                    • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

                    • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

                    • The list goes on and on.

                    This isn't about protecting the children.
                    It never was.

                    Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

                    Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

                    The future depends on us.

                    #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                    drangnon@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    drangnon@hachyderm.io
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                    #11

                    @Em0nM4stodon

                    Real Names Considered Harmful

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                    • mage_of_chaos@mastodon.socialM mage_of_chaos@mastodon.social

                      @Em0nM4stodon THE INTERNET IS RAN BY THE GOVERNMENT, DUDE. No ones banning anyone and your legal identity being tied to a public display name that ISN'T a legal identity is absolutely NOT a danger to the public. You're being EXTREMELY counter productive and making it look like YOU use the internet to harbor fugitives who are banned from use of the internet for BEING dangerous to those groups you just mentioned ON THE INTERNET. People get banned from the public domain when they become offenders.

                      boblefridge@mastodon.nzB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      boblefridge@mastodon.nz
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                      #12

                      My my. You're an easy block.

                      @Mage_of_Chaos @Em0nM4stodon

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                      • thestonedonkey@beige.partyT thestonedonkey@beige.party

                        @Em0nM4stodon they day I have to provide ID to use your service is the day I cancel, it's pretty simple.

                        mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.org
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                        #13

                        @TheStoneDonkey @Em0nM4stodon start to self-host first, it’s not a service if there are no others serviced

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                        • glassresistor@sfba.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @violetmadder @codinghorror @anton @Em0nM4stodon and frankly "people only want free stuff" was never true.

                          people were always willing to pay a reasonable price for media or software. its just always been priced as a luxury to maximize profits for middlemen. also the shift to free wasnt consumer or creator driven but seller driven as the growth over profits practice is how we got here.

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                            @anarchademic @Em0nM4stodon i find this very ironic

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                            • thestonedonkey@beige.partyT thestonedonkey@beige.party

                              @Em0nM4stodon they day I have to provide ID to use your service is the day I cancel, it's pretty simple.

                              miroul@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #16

                              @TheStoneDonkey @Em0nM4stodon

                              Same here. I'm done with this shit.

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                              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                When you read about Bans of Social Media for Teens and Age Verification, you must remember what it truly means:

                                • Official identification of every adult using social media.

                                • Deanonymization of every account, endangering groups that often rely on pseudonymity for safety, such as victims of domestic violence, victims of stalkers, people of color, and LGBTQ+ people.

                                • Putting every adult at great danger of exploitation, fraud, and identity theft by forcing them to share their official ID with a for-profit third-party company with no incentive to protect it. Breaches have already happened.

                                • Constructing a system of mass surveillance to attach every comment on social media to a legal identity. Effectively allowing authoritarian governments to silence their critics and opposition.

                                • Potential for dystopian censorship and cutting off means of organization for groups of resistance to oppressive regime and organizations.

                                • Endangering children online by putting a clear identification beacon over every child or family with children online.

                                • Endangering the data of children who will inevitably try to pass as adults, and have their information collected by the third-party for-profit company.

                                • Diminishing the value of official identification due to the inevitable data breaches, eventually pushing the system to require even more intrusive identification techniques, such as iris scans and fingerprints.

                                • Installing a system of mass surveillance capable of attaching even more information to everyone's legal identity. With a potential to built list of people in certain groups, and scale-up state censorship and discrimination in unprecedented ways.

                                • The list goes on and on.

                                This isn't about protecting the children.
                                It never was.

                                Do not be duped by this excuse used to convince you to let go of your human rights. They are only trying to manipulate people lacking information.

                                Stay informed on the issues related to Age Verification, and push back for your rights to privacy and democracy.

                                The future depends on us.

                                #AgeVerification #Privacy #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Authoritarianism

                                0x4d6165@transfem.social0 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange this thread is a free bootlicker blocklist

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                                • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @violetmadder @glassresistor @anton @Em0nM4stodon I don’t agree. People, statistically speaking, have an insane bloodlust for “free”. I have met the enemy and it is me.

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                                  • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                                    @violetmadder @glassresistor @anton @Em0nM4stodon I don’t agree. People, statistically speaking, have an insane bloodlust for “free”. I have met the enemy and it is me.

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                                    @violetmadder @glassresistor @anton @Em0nM4stodon I don’t know how to change human nature but I do know it is folly to work against it rather than acknowledging our collective weaknesses and work alongside them, with them, redirecting and guiding. It is a very difficult path, and the easy way out is constantly, incessantly beckoning to us every damn step of the way.

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