Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Cyborg)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

CIRCLE WITH A DOT

  1. Home
  2. Uncategorized
  3. RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Uncategorized
31 Posts 19 Posters 40 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • shaft@piaille.frS This user is from outside of this forum
    shaft@piaille.frS This user is from outside of this forum
    shaft@piaille.fr
    wrote last edited by
    #18

    @ParadeGrotesque @breizh @Khrys The door is not 100% closed in NetBSD

    “Code generated by a large language model or similar technology [...] is presumed to be tainted code, and must not be committed without prior written approval by core.”

    An approval can be given

    Link Preview Image
    NetBSD Commit Guidelines

    favicon

    (www.netbsd.org)

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • khrys@mamot.frK khrys@mamot.fr

      RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

      crell@phpc.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
      crell@phpc.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
      crell@phpc.social
      wrote last edited by
      #19

      @Khrys With low level system libraries getting on the AI bandwagon, it may very soon be impossible to have an AI free distro.

      We are well and truly screwed.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • shaft@piaille.frS This user is from outside of this forum
        shaft@piaille.frS This user is from outside of this forum
        shaft@piaille.fr
        wrote last edited by
        #20

        @ParadeGrotesque @breizh @Khrys Anyway: you have your AI-Free kernel. Nice. Then all the softwares that will run on this kernel, ranging from the shell to the web browser have to be AI-free 😬

        paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • fmasy@piaille.frF fmasy@piaille.fr

          @Khrys Ready to quit ?
          It depends ... what is the degree of cleaness that we consider ?

          I may be wrong, but isn't the linux kernel project already accepting contributions made with the use of AI-generated code ?

          If this is the case, then there is no such GNU/Linux AI-free distribution anymore.

          Edit: to avoid confusion, that would be something I regret. But would I have the strength to resist it ? I don't know.

          milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
          milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
          milagemayvary@mstdn.social
          wrote last edited by
          #21

          @fmasy @Khrys

          AFAIK GNU doesn't, got a source?

          only_ohm@mas.toO fmasy@piaille.frF 2 Replies Last reply
          0
          • shaft@piaille.frS shaft@piaille.fr

            @ParadeGrotesque @breizh @Khrys Anyway: you have your AI-Free kernel. Nice. Then all the softwares that will run on this kernel, ranging from the shell to the web browser have to be AI-free 😬

            paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
            paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
            paradegrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org
            wrote last edited by
            #22

            @shaft

            BSD user land (shell, utilities, etc.) is part of the distribution, and is often created and maintained by the same developers as the kernel.

            So no AI there either.

            Which means BSDs, in general, are more consistent and have slightly lighter utilities than Linux.

            For example: ksh is usually a version of pdksh, and is maintained by several developers from all 3 major BSDs (if I remember well).

            @breizh @Khrys

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • breizh@pleroma.breizh.pmB breizh@pleroma.breizh.pm

              @shaft@piaille.fr @Khrys@mamot.fr There you have.

              Link Preview Image
              AI Coding Assistants — The Linux Kernel documentation

              favicon

              (docs.kernel.org)

              Time to switch to BSD ? Well, I don't know their position.

              grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
              grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
              grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe
              wrote last edited by
              #23

              RE: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@grahamperrin/116220642823558416

              @breizh re: Linux, thank you for providing the missing link to docs.kernel.org.

              There are multiple BSD distros.

              For FreeBSD, the quoted post might help.

              cc @ParadeGrotesque

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • dallo@pouet.chapril.orgD dallo@pouet.chapril.org

                @Khrys
                Since I read that systemd is going to include slop, a lot of them is concern

                csgraves@turtleisland.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                csgraves@turtleisland.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                csgraves@turtleisland.social
                wrote last edited by
                #24

                @dallo @Khrys I just saw elementary OS on the list, but they do use systemD so we will see what happens. If the Wayland session can be refined a bit more I could run it, but I do miss having an actual desktop with icons.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • khrys@mamot.frK khrys@mamot.fr

                  RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

                  i@toot.pouyan.netI This user is from outside of this forum
                  i@toot.pouyan.netI This user is from outside of this forum
                  i@toot.pouyan.net
                  wrote last edited by
                  #25
                  @Khrys why? For security concerns? For ethical reasons?
                  troed@masto.sangberg.seT 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM milagemayvary@mstdn.social

                    @fmasy @Khrys

                    AFAIK GNU doesn't, got a source?

                    only_ohm@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
                    only_ohm@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
                    only_ohm@mas.to
                    wrote last edited by
                    #26

                    @milagemayvary @fmasy @Khrys

                    GNU Guix has its own init system, so wouldn't be immediately scuppered by the contrary position of systemd.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • khrys@mamot.frK khrys@mamot.fr

                      RT if you want a CLEAR statement about AI from all GNU/Linux distributions and are ready to quit any distribution that is ok with integrating AI slopware.

                      joacim@mastodon.melin.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      joacim@mastodon.melin.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                      joacim@mastodon.melin.org
                      wrote last edited by
                      #27

                      @Khrys It's Linux. And yes.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • i@toot.pouyan.netI i@toot.pouyan.net
                        @Khrys why? For security concerns? For ethical reasons?
                        troed@masto.sangberg.seT This user is from outside of this forum
                        troed@masto.sangberg.seT This user is from outside of this forum
                        troed@masto.sangberg.se
                        wrote last edited by
                        #28

                        @i

                        'Now we come to the third and final novel AI psychosis, the critics' psychosis, that AI is an abnormally terrible technology. This is a species of "criti-hype," which is when critics repeat the hyped-up claims of the companies they're targeting, but as criticism'

                        Link Preview Image
                        Pluralistic: Three more AI psychoses (12 Mar 2026) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

                        favicon

                        (pluralistic.net)

                        @Khrys

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • dallo@pouet.chapril.orgD dallo@pouet.chapril.org

                          @Khrys
                          Since I read that systemd is going to include slop, a lot of them is concern

                          crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                          crazyeddie@mastodon.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #29

                          @dallo @Khrys That ship sailed a long time ago. Systemd has always been slop. To the point of actually proposing changes to the kernel command line to hack around bugs in systemd rather than fix them, which earned quite the colorful response from Linus.

                          But that's what is widely used so ... well, whatever. I figure if that's how you be you may as well use AI. Do the JIRA shuffle on fast forward.

                          vOv

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM milagemayvary@mstdn.social

                            @fmasy @Khrys

                            AFAIK GNU doesn't, got a source?

                            fmasy@piaille.frF This user is from outside of this forum
                            fmasy@piaille.frF This user is from outside of this forum
                            fmasy@piaille.fr
                            wrote last edited by
                            #30

                            @milagemayvary @Khrys

                            Source that Linux kernel project may receive AI-assisted contributions ?

                            I cannot point to an example of such a contribution but at least the documentation indicates that it is now explicitely allowed:

                            Link Preview Image
                            AI Coding Assistants — The Linux Kernel documentation

                            favicon

                            (www.kernel.org)

                            (github source:
                            https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst)

                            milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • fmasy@piaille.frF fmasy@piaille.fr

                              @milagemayvary @Khrys

                              Source that Linux kernel project may receive AI-assisted contributions ?

                              I cannot point to an example of such a contribution but at least the documentation indicates that it is now explicitely allowed:

                              Link Preview Image
                              AI Coding Assistants — The Linux Kernel documentation

                              favicon

                              (www.kernel.org)

                              (github source:
                              https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst)

                              milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                              milagemayvary@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                              milagemayvary@mstdn.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #31

                              @fmasy

                              I'm familiar with the contributions to the kernel Linux, but the GNU utilities I don't believe is in the same situation.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • R relay@relay.mycrowd.ca shared this topic
                              Reply
                              • Reply as topic
                              Log in to reply
                              • Oldest to Newest
                              • Newest to Oldest
                              • Most Votes


                              • Login

                              • Login or register to search.
                              • First post
                                Last post
                              0
                              • Categories
                              • Recent
                              • Tags
                              • Popular
                              • World
                              • Users
                              • Groups