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  3. "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints."

"The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints."

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  • randomoxen@hachyderm.ioR randomoxen@hachyderm.io

    @philnash @1password

    I think you might be thinking naívely here. Or I might be. It's hard to say.

    When information is being withheld, people -- rightly -- use their knowledge and experience to fill in the gaps.

    They shouldn't be expected to be silent, even if they fill those gaps incorrectly.

    People don't operate like that.

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    @RandomOxen @1password I’m not seeing a cookie block. And even if it’s blocked like that, everyone here seems to be claiming to be a customer, so I thought they might owe the company a little more grace than just reading the headline. But again, you’re right, people can and will jump to conclusions. That still doesn’t make them right.

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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      @cararemixed @1password slowly but steadily we're progressing towards the first release 🙂

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      @whitequark @1password I've got a local clone already and have been following. This just triggered an earlier migration than I planned.

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      • cararemixed@mastodon.socialC cararemixed@mastodon.social

        @whitequark @1password I've got a local clone already and have been following. This just triggered an earlier migration than I planned.

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        @cararemixed @1password probably the biggest challenge right now is delivering high-assurance release builds for multiple platforms. it's happening but it is taking quite a bit of effort to build that infrastructure (and associated things like signing with an HSM) on top of Codeberg

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        • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

          @RandomOxen @1password I’m not seeing a cookie block. And even if it’s blocked like that, everyone here seems to be claiming to be a customer, so I thought they might owe the company a little more grace than just reading the headline. But again, you’re right, people can and will jump to conclusions. That still doesn’t make them right.

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          @philnash @1password

          I suspect now that it's my block on site data / local storage that prevents the page from loading.

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          • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

            "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

            At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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            @1password you’re on very shaky ground. This wouldn’t make me cancel yet, but it will make me start evaluating some pros and cons of other password managers as a “just in case”. I’ll want to know where to go when I hear of 1Password’s first major breach.

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            • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

              "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

              At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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              @1password WTH 🤦

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              • glebd@mastodon.socialG glebd@mastodon.social

                @1password I guess I need to find a replacement password manager asap. Well done.

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                @glebd @1password Same here. I’m looking for something cross-platform for Linux, MacOS, iOS and Windows, probably self-hosting on my NAS via Tailscale. What’s annoying is that I only recently moved my wife and stepdaughter onto 1Password.

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                • richardbuckle@techhub.socialR richardbuckle@techhub.social

                  @glebd @1password Same here. I’m looking for something cross-platform for Linux, MacOS, iOS and Windows, probably self-hosting on my NAS via Tailscale. What’s annoying is that I only recently moved my wife and stepdaughter onto 1Password.

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                  @RichardBuckle I’m looking at BitWarden or Proton Pass. Leaning towards BitWarden’s EU instance, bitwarden.eu (it can be self-hosted but I can’t be bothered tbh).

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                  • klausi@mastodon.socialK klausi@mastodon.social

                    @NE555 @1password @protonprivacy I'm sure the proton devs use LLMs as well for development, so I would question if that makes a difference

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                    @klausi @1password @protonprivacy Really? Would be nice if @protonprivacy could transparently communicate that.

                    I just looked into the repos on GH and to me it doesn't seem that there are any hints that they are using LLMs. A web search was tough (as Lumo and Scribe dominate the results), but also didn't reveal anything.

                    If #Proton really use LLMs to write their code, then why would we pay for that? I am paying for well crafted services, not LLM BS. I hope your assumption is not correct.

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                    • philnash@mastodon.socialP philnash@mastodon.social

                      @1password there are a whole lot of responses to this that show me they didn’t read the article. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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                      @philnash @1password

                      Sometimes people can possess the same information as you and still have a different opinion.

                      How mad is that?

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                      • virtualmarc@edgie.meV virtualmarc@edgie.me

                        @1password So, the 1password backend now operates on AI generated code which is known to introduce security vulnerabilities.
                        You are aiming for a LastPass type of incident?

                        Seems like I have to evaluate a new password manager…

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                        @virtualmarc @1password
                        Luckily, #vaultwarden seems to be unmolested so far.

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