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"The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints."

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  • 1password@1password.social1 This user is from outside of this forum
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    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

    virtualmarc@edgie.meV nesevis@hachyderm.ioN gullevek@famichiki.jpG chadpod@mastodon.socialC yatil@yatil.socialY 46 Replies Last reply
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    • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

      "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

      At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

      virtualmarc@edgie.meV This user is from outside of this forum
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      @1password So, the 1password backend now operates on AI generated code which is known to introduce security vulnerabilities.
      You are aiming for a LastPass type of incident?

      Seems like I have to evaluate a new password manager…

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      • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

        "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

        At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

        nesevis@hachyderm.ioN This user is from outside of this forum
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        @1password No. Just no.

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        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

          gullevek@famichiki.jpG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @1password So in other words you hopped on the hype train and making your code shit

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          • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

            "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

            At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

            chadpod@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @1password As a longtime 1Password user and software engineer, this article seriously undermines my confidence.

            For security-critical software, AI should assist vulnerability discovery, with every finding rigorously validated by senior engineers, not drive development velocity.

            I’d rather hear about how you are achieving reliability standards comparable to avionics or medical device software than excitement about AI-assisted coding.

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            • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

              "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

              At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

              yatil@yatil.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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              @1password So where do I switch to that does not use LLMs for this? So sad that so much once great software gets worse these days.

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                @trib

                I dropped them, after a decade, and have gone with Apple's Passwords. So far, so good. I also added Uplock for financial info.

                @1password

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                • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                  "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                  At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                  blakecoverett@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @1password Shame my subscription just renewed a couple months back, but I guess that means I have ample time to find a better platform.

                  This is always bad, but extremely bad in a tool guarding my valuable secrets. I'm out.

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                  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                    glebd@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @1password I guess I need to find a replacement password manager asap. Well done.

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                      @trib

                      I got my wife to make the move. It was relatively painless. She does not like info tech at all.

                      @1password

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                        @trib

                        I got my wife to make the move. It was relatively painless. She does not like info tech at all.

                        @1password

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                        @trib

                        Also easy because all of our devices are Apple

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                        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                          maique@social.lolM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @1password Not cool. Not cool at all.

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                          • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                            "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                            At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                            troy@opencoaster.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @1password I’m not a fan of this AT ALL. I’LL be looking at alternatives for my team that won’t be relying on AI slop. Kind of explains why your apps have been kind of buggy recently.

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                              "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                              At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                              @1password who needs a $5 wrench?

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                                "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                @1password Please write a blog post on the feedback you got on this post. Was it universally negative? Did you learn anything?

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                                • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                  "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                  At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                  @1password Ah, so this deconstruction is why I have been getting to be almost daily system issue emails across the cloud stack which say they are for "scale issues" it's really you teasing out pieces then having to tape over the leaks?

                                  There was an implicit trust when you dragged us from Dropbox/iCloud local sync to your cloud. You've expanded your product set outside your historical core business and now money and scale are meeting the monolith. I hope us customers survive.

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                                  • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                    "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                    At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                    @1password hint: the ideal "agent to human ratio" is 0. seeing a company jeopardise its reputation like this just to chase a trend is very disappointing.

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                                    • chadpod@mastodon.socialC chadpod@mastodon.social

                                      @1password As a longtime 1Password user and software engineer, this article seriously undermines my confidence.

                                      For security-critical software, AI should assist vulnerability discovery, with every finding rigorously validated by senior engineers, not drive development velocity.

                                      I’d rather hear about how you are achieving reliability standards comparable to avionics or medical device software than excitement about AI-assisted coding.

                                      dxzdb@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @chadpod @1password So well said!

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                                      • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                        "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                        At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

                                        keiko@furries.clubK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @1password PLEASE could you GA Passkeys for logging into 1Password....

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                                        • 1password@1password.social1 1password@1password.social

                                          "The pattern that works is using agents to produce deterministic artifacts, then forcing execution through those constraints." Tido Carriero, VP of Engineering at Cursor.

                                          At 1Password, we applied agentic tooling to B5, our multi-million-line Go monolith, to help plan and execute a production refactor. Here's what we learned: https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith

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                                          @1password Alright, it was nice knowing you. Take care.

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