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Equal work deserves equal pay.

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  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

    Equal work deserves equal pay.

    Three years ago, the EU adopted the Pay Transparency Directive.

    Now, EU countries are bringing these new rules into national law:
    ✔️ Pay transparency for jobseekers
    ✔️ Right to information for employees
    ✔️ Gender pay gap reporting
    ✔️ Joint pay assessments

    Because equal pay starts with pay transparency.

    shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
    shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
    shemjm@social.vivaldi.net
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    @EUCommission it's often not equal work though. Not everyone performs equally.

    Two people could have the same job title and one could outperform the other.

    Should they be paid the same?

    marcusboden@fosstodon.orgM vivi@arff.archandle.netV robo2@mastodon.ieR 3 Replies Last reply
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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Equal work deserves equal pay.

      Three years ago, the EU adopted the Pay Transparency Directive.

      Now, EU countries are bringing these new rules into national law:
      ✔️ Pay transparency for jobseekers
      ✔️ Right to information for employees
      ✔️ Gender pay gap reporting
      ✔️ Joint pay assessments

      Because equal pay starts with pay transparency.

      xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
      xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
      xinit@mastodon.coffee
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      @EUCommission
      I expect I'll be seeing my company continue to not comply with this.

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      • angelo@mastodon.digitaladriatic.euA angelo@mastodon.digitaladriatic.eu

        @EUCommission I am genuinely curious to see how Italian companies will adjust to this. They are often fond of questionable practices when it comes to contracts and workers' rights, but let’s monitor the situation and fine those that fail to comply. Either way, another win for Europe.

        ziclaud@toot.communityZ This user is from outside of this forum
        ziclaud@toot.communityZ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @angelo @EUCommission I know right?
        To know how much I could earn for a company I had to:
        - Introductory call
        - Task wich could take up to 48h
        - Call where I explain what I did
        - Call with HR
        And after all that they'd tell me: "we can give you a stage, 800 euros per month" 💀

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        • ziclaud@toot.communityZ ziclaud@toot.community

          @angelo @EUCommission I know right?
          To know how much I could earn for a company I had to:
          - Introductory call
          - Task wich could take up to 48h
          - Call where I explain what I did
          - Call with HR
          And after all that they'd tell me: "we can give you a stage, 800 euros per month" 💀

          angelo@mastodon.digitaladriatic.euA This user is from outside of this forum
          angelo@mastodon.digitaladriatic.euA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ZiClaud @EUCommission Honestly (and unfortunately), I am not even surprised. Just take a look at the staggering number of co.co.co. or the fact that workers are forced to be "partita IVA" in their contracts, not to mention all the loopholes and escamotages in place to squeeze everything out of you

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          • angelo@mastodon.digitaladriatic.euA angelo@mastodon.digitaladriatic.eu

            @EUCommission I am genuinely curious to see how Italian companies will adjust to this. They are often fond of questionable practices when it comes to contracts and workers' rights, but let’s monitor the situation and fine those that fail to comply. Either way, another win for Europe.

            secondchancelemon@rebel.arS This user is from outside of this forum
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            secondchancelemon@rebel.ar
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            @angelo @EUCommission I came to comment the same thing. It would be very good for Italy to implement transparency labor laws. But currently both, italian companies and public agencies, are handled with a lot of nepotism.

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Equal work deserves equal pay.

              Three years ago, the EU adopted the Pay Transparency Directive.

              Now, EU countries are bringing these new rules into national law:
              ✔️ Pay transparency for jobseekers
              ✔️ Right to information for employees
              ✔️ Gender pay gap reporting
              ✔️ Joint pay assessments

              Because equal pay starts with pay transparency.

              xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
              xinit@mastodon.coffeeX This user is from outside of this forum
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              @EUCommission
              I don't remember the last time I saw a job add that listed a real salary, or even a range. It's mostly all "competitive salary" (whatever that means) or something like "depending on experience" or "total compensation to €100.000" where total compensation is a whole other problem.

              Where can we turn these ads in if the commission already seeking them out?

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              • shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS shemjm@social.vivaldi.net

                @EUCommission it's often not equal work though. Not everyone performs equally.

                Two people could have the same job title and one could outperform the other.

                Should they be paid the same?

                marcusboden@fosstodon.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
                marcusboden@fosstodon.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
                marcusboden@fosstodon.org
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                @shemjm
                No, nor do they insinuate that. The first sentence is
                > Equal work deserves equal pay.

                Not
                > Equal position deserves equal pay.

                @EUCommission

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                • shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS shemjm@social.vivaldi.net

                  @EUCommission it's often not equal work though. Not everyone performs equally.

                  Two people could have the same job title and one could outperform the other.

                  Should they be paid the same?

                  vivi@arff.archandle.netV This user is from outside of this forum
                  vivi@arff.archandle.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @shemjm @EUCommission sounds like corporate should give them different titles or distribute workload more evenly. Management skill issue

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                  • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Equal work deserves equal pay.

                    Three years ago, the EU adopted the Pay Transparency Directive.

                    Now, EU countries are bringing these new rules into national law:
                    ✔️ Pay transparency for jobseekers
                    ✔️ Right to information for employees
                    ✔️ Gender pay gap reporting
                    ✔️ Joint pay assessments

                    Because equal pay starts with pay transparency.

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                    E This user is from outside of this forum
                    elgregor@social.librem.one
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                    @EUCommission Oh, so now contracts cannot prohibit employees from discussing their salaries with colleagues? That's great! It's perhaps the best and most impactful part of this directive. It will help organically fix the pay gap without any extra burden on companies.

                    Salary ranges in job postings, and ban on asking candidates about past salaries are also great. The reporting requirements should help, though they also create problems.

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                    • shemjm@social.vivaldi.netS shemjm@social.vivaldi.net

                      @EUCommission it's often not equal work though. Not everyone performs equally.

                      Two people could have the same job title and one could outperform the other.

                      Should they be paid the same?

                      robo2@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                      robo2@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @shemjm @EUCommission companies may have to have more granular levels, this happens at some large companies. Senior Engineer Level 1, Level 2 etc

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