A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.
That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:
- Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
- Support open firmware, hackable devices
- Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
- Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
- FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta -
RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
In fact: this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY computing power we control AT ALL
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl @aparrish It’s not like we haven’t had a good preview with DRM and banking apps on alternate android distributions already so I don’t get those who don’t see that as potentially leading to complete loss of access either…
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl This is all part of the same effort that's locking down Android development and buying out all the storage, chips and RAM before consumers have a chance.
This is the end run to kill all OSS by forcing us to rent compute and storage, then beg permission to participate.
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I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.
That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:
- Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
- Support open firmware, hackable devices
- Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
- Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
- FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta@cwebber
https://flisol.info/InstallFest
I don't know if you have an equivalent of the Festival Latinoamericano de Instalación de Software Libre, but there's a install festival in Latinoamerica with presentations too. It is organized by volunteers yearly
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl Think again: maybe you're already updating systems with CPU and GPU microcode that's there to slip in some backdoor.
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I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.
That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:
- Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
- Support open firmware, hackable devices
- Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
- Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
- FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta@cwebber @sleepyowl
open semiconductor fabs when , -
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl genuinely as time goes on I'm wondering if its a good idea to have at least one strictly offline device/machine
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl
Age verification is a loss of privacy to big US Corporations and to your Government for all Adults."Think of the children" is purely an excuse for surveillance. It's up to parents to "police" child access to technology or Internet, or books, or music. No-one else.
This is a denial of human rights for all adults.
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I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.
That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:
- Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
- Support open firmware, hackable devices
- Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
- Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
- FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gottaGreat insight! Where is Bunnie Huang? We need more people like you and him, I think. Hack everything!
How is the MNT reform fro this pont of view?
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I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.
That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:
- Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
- Support open firmware, hackable devices
- Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
- Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
- FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gottaThis. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl nobody is gonna prevent you from playing with your free softwares on your purple fisher-price laptop. It just cannot load any of the top 1000 websites (or anything on cloudflare), because they all require remote attestation of an adult OS.
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@cwebber @sleepyowl
open semiconductor fabs when ,@cwebber @sleepyowl i know its not super feasible , but i don't see any other way out of this
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I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.
That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:
- Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
- Support open firmware, hackable devices
- Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
- Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
- FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta@cwebber @sleepyowl do you happen to know if Google could decide to lock the bootloader of a Pixel phone with a software update?
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@cwebber @sleepyowl nobody is gonna prevent you from playing with your free softwares on your purple fisher-price laptop. It just cannot load any of the top 1000 websites (or anything on cloudflare), because they all require remote attestation of an adult OS.
@joeyh @sleepyowl I mean, for most people, and most of the time, that's the same thing
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl Age verification is the trojan horse for absolute surveillance
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl They've artificially caused a shortage of RAM and hard drives so you can't build your own.
Much of the time the bootloader can be cracked. They're getting much better at that though. They can also use these same methods to keep you from gaining access to networks if your bootloader can't sign with a certified key--which your overwrite won't.
It's not hard to see what they're up to. I just don't know what to do about it. It looks like checkmate to me.
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RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149
A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"
Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL
The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?
We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.
@cwebber @sleepyowl Lol, joke's on them - nobody can afford to build a new PC anymore...
(I'm kidding of course, this is a truly awful and dystopian future but also... nobody is paying 50k for RAM just to get a locked UEFI)
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@cwebber @sleepyowl genuinely as time goes on I'm wondering if its a good idea to have at least one strictly offline device/machine
@SkellySoft @cwebber @sleepyowl I have 4. It's absolutely vital.
