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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

    Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

    Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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    Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

    by @geerlingguy

    Sooner or later, I'll buy a 3D printer. But, after this, I think I'll look at other brands.

    #OpenSource

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    @geerlingguy I mean: I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR CLOUD TO PRINT MY STUFF ON MY PRINTER ON MY LAN!

    oxy@social.bsdlab.auO peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG omar@mastodon.bsd.cafeO 5 Replies Last reply
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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      @geerlingguy I mean: I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR CLOUD TO PRINT MY STUFF ON MY PRINTER ON MY LAN!

      oxy@social.bsdlab.auO This user is from outside of this forum
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      @stefano @geerlingguy but what if you need added AI but didnt know it yet
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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @geerlingguy I mean: I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR CLOUD TO PRINT MY STUFF ON MY PRINTER ON MY LAN!

        peterrenshaw@ioc.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @stefano me, coming from the, “you bought this, it’s yours to own, pull-apart and fix era”; I watched this happen in the jump from dot matrix to inkjet printers; Then the homegrown 3D printers to bamboo printer era.

        The print products all follow that late stage capitalist hook. The consumables or connectivity.

        One thing I noticed looking at <https://www.orcaslicer.com/> (looks like a great bit of S/W) is the

        “… come talk to us on #discord.”

        Create your own domain, web & email service cheapskates because using Discord follows the same enshitification pattern 😲🤪☺️

        cc @geerlingguy

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

          Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

          Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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          Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

          by @geerlingguy

          Sooner or later, I'll buy a 3D printer. But, after this, I think I'll look at other brands.

          #OpenSource

          yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.orgY This user is from outside of this forum
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          @stefano @geerlingguy

          But be prepared—they’re going to try to talk you into buying that flammable junk! 🙂 Twice a month, the feed will be flooded with bamboo reviews; guys will be giving tips on how to print resin-like figures on an FTM—exclusively using bamboo; bamboo will inevitably be in the background even when the video is supposedly about something else entirely, and so on. 🙂

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          • yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.orgY yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.org

            @stefano @geerlingguy

            But be prepared—they’re going to try to talk you into buying that flammable junk! 🙂 Twice a month, the feed will be flooded with bamboo reviews; guys will be giving tips on how to print resin-like figures on an FTM—exclusively using bamboo; bamboo will inevitably be in the background even when the video is supposedly about something else entirely, and so on. 🙂

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            @stefano @geerlingguy

            3D Musketeers is the only YouTuber who talks honestly about the problems with bamboo; the rest have their mouths shut... no idea why 🙂

            - YouTube

            Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              @geerlingguy I mean: I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR CLOUD TO PRINT MY STUFF ON MY PRINTER ON MY LAN!

              82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe8 This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by 82mhz@mastodon.bsd.cafe
              #7

              @stefano

              Another week, another company being shitty to their paying customers. I'm tired.

              Thanks @geerlingguy for calling them out.

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @geerlingguy I mean: I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR CLOUD TO PRINT MY STUFF ON MY PRINTER ON MY LAN!

                gustavinobevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.orgG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @stefano @geerlingguy

                I dumped Fusion360 for the same reason.

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                  Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                  Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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                  Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

                  by @geerlingguy

                  Sooner or later, I'll buy a 3D printer. But, after this, I think I'll look at other brands.

                  #OpenSource

                  erik@mastodon.erikberger.deE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #9

                  @stefano I have waited until late 2025 to purchase a 3D printer, as I wanted to have something usable without to much tweaking - I have enough time consuming hobbies. When I looked at the available brands, this cloud centric design, telemetry and attitude scared me away from Bambu Labs. I settled for a Creality printer, it is in my "printer" vlan with no connectivity and just works well with either their own (modified Orca) slicer and original OrcaSlicer. Seems robust and well made so far.

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                  • erik@mastodon.erikberger.deE erik@mastodon.erikberger.de

                    @stefano I have waited until late 2025 to purchase a 3D printer, as I wanted to have something usable without to much tweaking - I have enough time consuming hobbies. When I looked at the available brands, this cloud centric design, telemetry and attitude scared me away from Bambu Labs. I settled for a Creality printer, it is in my "printer" vlan with no connectivity and just works well with either their own (modified Orca) slicer and original OrcaSlicer. Seems robust and well made so far.

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                    @erik thank you! I'll take note of the printer/brand.

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                      Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                      Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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                      Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

                      by @geerlingguy

                      Sooner or later, I'll buy a 3D printer. But, after this, I think I'll look at other brands.

                      #OpenSource

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                      @stefano @geerlingguy I've got a Prusa Original XL and have been very happy. "Fire and forget" type of machine.

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                      • rootmoose@mastodon.bsd.cafeR rootmoose@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        @stefano @geerlingguy I've got a Prusa Original XL and have been very happy. "Fire and forget" type of machine.

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                        Great choice.

                        I bought a clone, and regret it!
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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                          Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                          Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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                          Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

                          by @geerlingguy

                          Sooner or later, I'll buy a 3D printer. But, after this, I think I'll look at other brands.

                          #OpenSource

                          philvuchetich@bsd.networkP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @stefano @geerlingguy I am going to the library makerspace to get certified* to use their ultimaker S5 today. Ill see if using it works to replace my old printer that is failing when I try larger prints. Otherwise, I was looking at the Bamboo labs X2D with 2 nozzles (i like the idea of multi color/material prints with less waste). Ill look at other options in the consumer price range if i need to buy one, or look into putting it on the IOT vlan that has no outbound access.

                          *certified = watch a video and get basic training on how to not break the printer when using it.

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                          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                            Bambu Lab is abusing the open source social contract

                            Last year I said I'd probably never recommend another Bambu Lab printer again. I still use my P1S, but after Bambu Lab started pushing their always-connected cloud solution as the new default: I blocked the printer from the Internet via my OPNsense Firewall I stopped updating the firmware I locked the printer into Developer mode I deleted Bambu Studio and started using OrcaSlicer I had to do that to keep it under my control, instead of Bambu's.

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                            Jeff Geerling (www.jeffgeerling.com)

                            by @geerlingguy

                            Sooner or later, I'll buy a 3D printer. But, after this, I think I'll look at other brands.

                            #OpenSource

                            wooshell@chaosfurs.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @stefano @geerlingguy building fame on "we're open source and support tinkering with our products" only to later do a total 180 and convert everything into cloud-first app-only enshittified walled garden. shame on them.
                            Better to take your money elsewhere.

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                            • yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.orgY yrabbit@mastodon.sdf.org

                              @stefano @geerlingguy

                              3D Musketeers is the only YouTuber who talks honestly about the problems with bamboo; the rest have their mouths shut... no idea why 🙂

                              - YouTube

                              Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

                              favicon

                              (www.youtube.com)

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                              @yrabbit You never heard of Louis Rossmann? As Yootoober is not his job, he is free to talk and put his money where his mouth is.

                              @stefano @geerlingguy

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                @geerlingguy I mean: I DON'T WANT TO USE YOUR CLOUD TO PRINT MY STUFF ON MY PRINTER ON MY LAN!

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