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  • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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      Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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      @GeofCox

      This is great to see. We definitely need to see more of this, though I think it needs a new name.

      The article uses the term "free", but you are using the term "without paying a fare".

      I like that framing better. It's not "free" transportation because it's still being paid for. But it's "fare-free" transportation as opposed to the other transportation methods that charge a fare.

      I really think we need to move to the term "Fareless" or "Fare-free" because it actually does like a feature now. 😀

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      • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

        Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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        @GeofCox The way to go. Literally.

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        • gatesvp@mstdn.caG gatesvp@mstdn.ca

          @GeofCox

          This is great to see. We definitely need to see more of this, though I think it needs a new name.

          The article uses the term "free", but you are using the term "without paying a fare".

          I like that framing better. It's not "free" transportation because it's still being paid for. But it's "fare-free" transportation as opposed to the other transportation methods that charge a fare.

          I really think we need to move to the term "Fareless" or "Fare-free" because it actually does like a feature now. 😀

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          @gatesvp @GeofCox
          In Sweden (Stockholm and Göteborg) there is a "free-fare"-fund called "Planka" (literally Gatecrash)

          "Join the parking fund!
          Planking is both a way to save money and a political act for free public transport.
          If you are a member of the parking fund, we will pay your fines on public transport.
          Becoming a member only costs 100:-/month in Stockholm and 100:-/month in Gothenburg (300 SEK the first month)."
          More:
          https://planka.nu

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          • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

            Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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            @GeofCox Yay France! Awesome

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            • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

              Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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              @GeofCox I wish they did that here in greater Paris. Here they raised prices and made the carry-over of one ticket less effective. (On the other hand I’m used to Norway’s prices, so they still feel pretty cheap to me here)

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                Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                @GeofCox Why don’t people walk or cycle instead? It is already free. The answer is that authorities don’t want to restrict the speed of motor traffic. Instead they make cyclists wear helmets and hi-viz vests.

                You can research the safety issue if you like. The short version is that personal protective equipment is a dead end. It is a distraction from safe cycling infrastructure. As are many things…

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                  Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                  @GeofCox

                  Great idea…

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                  • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

                    Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                    @GeofCox The best point is made at the very end of the article - "noting that the fact that most roads are free is never questioned."

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                    • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

                      Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                      @GeofCox

                      North American standard reply of "we can't do that here, we're not a place that does good things for our people".

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                      • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

                        Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                        @GeofCox @kennergf Brazil is talking about free urban transportation nation wide

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                          Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                          @GeofCox This is exactly the type of progress we need in every major city in the U.S., everywhere in the world. How much better we would be as a civilization to get beyond and finally leave behind our car addiction.

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                            Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                            @GeofCox But won't that hurt subsidies to Epstien-billionaires

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                              Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                              @GeofCox

                              That is so cool....

                              We will never ever see that in america,
                              If there is no profit, it won't be done.

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                                Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                                @GeofCox public transport may be free, but this article isn't

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                                  Almost 50 cities in France have already done away with paid tickets... "Nearly three million people in France can now use urban public transport without paying a fare. That number is likely to grow after the municipal elections... given the proliferation of proposals to make urban transport at least partially free."

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                                  @GeofCox @Em0nM4stodon This is great. Here in Torino, no tickets just for university students (still paid tickets for high school students…).

                                  I wonder if any cost-benefit analysis is available to support these actions.

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                                  • mewsleah@meow.socialM mewsleah@meow.social

                                    @GeofCox public transport may be free, but this article isn't

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                                    @mewsleah

                                    This should take you to a free read: https://archive.ph/z3Zhi

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                                    • eriksandblom@mastodon.greenE eriksandblom@mastodon.green

                                      @GeofCox Why don’t people walk or cycle instead? It is already free. The answer is that authorities don’t want to restrict the speed of motor traffic. Instead they make cyclists wear helmets and hi-viz vests.

                                      You can research the safety issue if you like. The short version is that personal protective equipment is a dead end. It is a distraction from safe cycling infrastructure. As are many things…

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                                      @eriksandblom

                                      Remember though there are limitations to walking/cycling for many people - the elderly, disabled, poorly, small children, etc...

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                                      • geofcox@climatejustice.socialG geofcox@climatejustice.social

                                        @eriksandblom

                                        Remember though there are limitations to walking/cycling for many people - the elderly, disabled, poorly, small children, etc...

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                                        @GeofCox Agree. This goes both ways though. Bike paths are also used by disabled people on scooters. Not everyone can stand up in a turning bus in traffic. Can you travel unassisted in a wheelchair in TGV trains? A more important priority in my opinion.

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                                        • pbaesse@bolha.oneP pbaesse@bolha.one

                                          @GeofCox @kennergf Brazil is talking about free urban transportation nation wide

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                                          @pBaesse @GeofCox yes, please

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