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  • davidm_yeg@mstdn.caD davidm_yeg@mstdn.ca

    @knowprose

    Not surprising … I recall at least a couple helium crises in the last couple decades, certainly shouldn’t have been a surprise to those who launched the war, but it seems like they didn’t bother to properly think anything through.

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    @DavidM_yeg 1/ they honestly expected decapitation would be enough.

    Interestingly... they did not know that control had been passed to local commanders.

    That's a pretty big oversight on intelligence.

    But it would not be obvious to those with authoritarian mindsets.

    True theological authoritarianism puts the supreme being above all. The late Ayatollah was a true believer, looks like.. I am not saying he was a good guy by any measure....

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      @DavidM_yeg 1/ they honestly expected decapitation would be enough.

      Interestingly... they did not know that control had been passed to local commanders.

      That's a pretty big oversight on intelligence.

      But it would not be obvious to those with authoritarian mindsets.

      True theological authoritarianism puts the supreme being above all. The late Ayatollah was a true believer, looks like.. I am not saying he was a good guy by any measure....

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      @DavidM_yeg but... that level of commitment is...

      Well, extreme beyond what we in the West know. And it certainly threw everyone.

      So now, it's still not a war, and yet...

      Charlie Foxtrot exponential. Hydra.

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      • otfrom@functional.cafeO otfrom@functional.cafe

        @jochenwettach @knowprose I was talking about co2 rather than helium https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-58626935

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        @otfrom @jochenwettach @knowprose

        I haven't seen "Distillers" tanker trucks around for many years - one source of CO2 was the brewing industry (it's not that difficult to liquefy at atmospheric pressure). Later they got it (and industrial ethanol) from the petrochemical industry.

        Helium is from radioactive decay in the earth, and separated out from natural gas wells. It's scarce and any leakage ends up in outer space.

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        • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

          Helium. This is did not see coming.

          Helium.

          Just a moment...

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          #tech #iranwar

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          richardh@mastodon.nz
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          @knowprose Interesting. I had thought the USA was the main source of helium.

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          • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

            Helium. This is did not see coming.

            Helium.

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.techspot.com)

            #tech #iranwar

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            @knowprose War is Hell...

            ...aciously Stupid!

            oil troubles make sense, but helium sure wasn't on my bingo card either

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            • B blargyblargh@a2mi.social

              @knowprose War is Hell...

              ...aciously Stupid!

              oil troubles make sense, but helium sure wasn't on my bingo card either

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              @blargyblargh yeah. When I saw it, it was just as I wrote it.

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              • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                Helium. This is did not see coming.

                Helium.

                Just a moment...

                favicon

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                #tech #iranwar

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                @knowprose Finally I’m in on the investment action. I don’t have any precious metals squirrelled away, but I do have a few big tanks of helium for welding here. 🤑

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                • cawguy@mstdn.caC cawguy@mstdn.ca

                  @knowprose Finally I’m in on the investment action. I don’t have any precious metals squirrelled away, but I do have a few big tanks of helium for welding here. 🤑

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                  @CAWguy 🤣

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                  • R richardh@mastodon.nz

                    @knowprose Interesting. I had thought the USA was the main source of helium.

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                    softwaretheron@mas.to
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                    @richardh
                    I had that impression as well, till I found out better in the early 2000s.
                    Back in the day (1970s?) the only source was an oil well in Texas.

                    @knowprose

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                    • lfzz@mastodon.socialL lfzz@mastodon.social

                      @knowprose so my next ram upgrade is going to cost 2k and a kidney?

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                      @lfzz
                      Yes. If you get away with one.

                      @knowprose

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                      • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                        @carstenfranke yeah. And the data centers. A lot of big tech infrastructure out there.

                        The billionaires are probably privately cranky. Which will have an effect on the administration. BUT...

                        Iran gets a vote in the war. As does Hesbollah, and whoever else gets upset that they lost someone that they cared about.

                        I knew it was a charlie foxtrot, but I didn't realize it was all caps (I spared everyone all caps. You're welcome).

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                        @knowprose
                        And the fertiliser. Expect food prices to rise quickly in the summer.

                        @carstenfranke

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                          @knowprose
                          And the fertiliser. Expect food prices to rise quickly in the summer.

                          @carstenfranke

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                          @SoftwareTheron @knowprose and I just saw a blib about a aluminum smelter that is shutting down capacity. Fun fun fun /s

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                            @knowprose
                            And the fertiliser. Expect food prices to rise quickly in the summer.

                            @carstenfranke

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                            @SoftwareTheron @carstenfranke plenty of manure in the White House.

                            Grab a microphone. 🤣

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                            • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                              Helium. This is did not see coming.

                              Helium.

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (www.techspot.com)

                              #tech #iranwar

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                              @knowprose Sadly, it’s in limited supply. 😞

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                                Helium. This is did not see coming.

                                Helium.

                                Just a moment...

                                favicon

                                (www.techspot.com)

                                #tech #iranwar

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                                @knowprose Trump is a stable genius!

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                                  Helium. This is did not see coming.

                                  Helium.

                                  Just a moment...

                                  favicon

                                  (www.techspot.com)

                                  #tech #iranwar

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                                  @knowprose

                                  Civilization is a complex beast. Thus, you shouldn't attack it with a chainsaw if you don't know what you are doing.

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                                  • knowprose@mastodon.socialK knowprose@mastodon.social

                                    Helium. This is did not see coming.

                                    Helium.

                                    Just a moment...

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                                    (www.techspot.com)

                                    #tech #iranwar

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                                    @knowprose this is the massive downside of mega production points, centralized and globalized.

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                                    • cadbury_moose@wandering.shopC cadbury_moose@wandering.shop

                                      @otfrom @jochenwettach @knowprose

                                      I haven't seen "Distillers" tanker trucks around for many years - one source of CO2 was the brewing industry (it's not that difficult to liquefy at atmospheric pressure). Later they got it (and industrial ethanol) from the petrochemical industry.

                                      Helium is from radioactive decay in the earth, and separated out from natural gas wells. It's scarce and any leakage ends up in outer space.

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                                      @Cadbury_Moose @jochenwettach @knowprose interesting list of US based producers from the epa here https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-05/documents/co2_map_050120.pdf

                                      Looks like most produce from ethanol

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                                        Helium. This is did not see coming.

                                        Helium.

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                                        #tech #iranwar

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                                        @knowprose @cstross

                                        “I wonder what the middle east will do when we stop using oil?”

                                        Yeah, apparently thats covered

                                        😮

                                        (Edit: thats assuming there is anything left when this is over, of course)

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                                          @neko @knowprose that's fine all the investors are pulling out of fantasy league AI and data centre projects as they're going to need a lot of capital to put out the US private credit dumpster fire.

                                          The helium risk was well documented years ago, ditto fertilizer and food into the middle east. There are alternatives but they take time. Perhaps it's time people stopped covering fields in plastic coated gunk to pillage the land to grow stuff China has stopped importing

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