“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me.
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@davidgerard I dream about just working with wood daily. You becoming a carpenter or something.
@tante I'm about to quit tech and become a full time home grower doing some music on the side as an occupation for the brain. I think, it will be better for my soul. @davidgerard
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@davidgerard I dream about just working with wood daily. You becoming a carpenter or something.
@tante careful, i achieved the dream of become a youtube influencer
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante @davidgerard Joseph Cox, one of the 404 folk, is on the fediverse and is worth following, @josephcox
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante This reminded me of https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPTPro/comments/1lmj0pv/i_read_the_your_brain_on_chatgpt_study_heres_how/.
The username would suggest this is possible satire. But in this timeline it’s hard to know.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
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@davidgerard I dream about just working with wood daily. You becoming a carpenter or something.
@tante @davidgerard electricity s what i think i would go learn today....
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R relay@relay.mycrowd.ca shared this topic
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante This is just what a programmer friend told me the other day
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@davidgerard I dream about just working with wood daily. You becoming a carpenter or something.
@tante @davidgerard I started doing improv comedy, and if I get any hint that I could make a living standing on stage making a fool out of myself with the aim of making people laugh, I'd jump on it.
Also, an activity where the average person is much less likely to worship at the feet of fake productivity.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante it's almost as if ANY creative job is only really worthwhile if people have spent time and energy on working out what the problem is, and then working out a way of implementing it, and learning from their mistakes (which is one thing LLMs never do).
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@davidgerard I dream about just working with wood daily. You becoming a carpenter or something.
@tante @davidgerard wood? where do you get the wood though? And who can pay for real wood in this economy… I had this thought lately and realised we're gearing toward a society where we go back to "working trades for the extra rich" (which is… already the case if you're working in software in one way or another)
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante
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@tante @davidgerard wood? where do you get the wood though? And who can pay for real wood in this economy… I had this thought lately and realised we're gearing toward a society where we go back to "working trades for the extra rich" (which is… already the case if you're working in software in one way or another)
@tante @davidgerard the honest answer is "bakeries", bakeries everywhere, at every corners…
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@davidgerard I want the challenge, the iteration, the growth, the development, the understandable and functional and fun end result. Flow state activities. Not... This.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/I'm one of the team leads at my current job and just had this argument with other engineers as to why I don't use AI. People are outsourcing their thinking, destroying the environment, and giving over info willingly to these dumb companies.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante There is similar equation for all automation. In my career in aviation (now retired) there is a direct correlation to losing some level of flying skills by overly relying on the autopilot.
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@davidgerard I want the challenge, the iteration, the growth, the development, the understandable and functional and fun end result. Flow state activities. Not... This.
@eldersea @tante @davidgerard I just love the Sci-Fi stories about civilizations who forget how to do stuff because they gave it to the computer to do, and of course, the computer goes rogue. In a similar tone, how shipping all the manufacturing out of the country leaves you with no one in your country or at least no wide spread expertise who knows how to manufacture and zero capacity for emergencies like a war. Great security moves. /S
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I'm one of the team leads at my current job and just had this argument with other engineers as to why I don't use AI. People are outsourcing their thinking, destroying the environment, and giving over info willingly to these dumb companies.
@boricua_yakuza @tante I had to review a massive PR that should’ve been a 10 lines function at most.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/To put it another way.
Capitalism alienating a new sector of workers from the means of production. their own thought.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante "Inspiration" is exactly a wrong way to use any kind of chatbot.
Under some cases, some chatbots can be useful for digging up source references, if you know they exist, or have good enough surrounding information about what they are about. Even this doesn't always work, and you must check all the references, or you'll get hallucinated ones. Definitely also beware of the risk of false negatives. Google's search is relatively good about getting the positive references relatively right, for an example, but it has a high false negative rate.
As far as I can tell, it's pretty much impossible to use LLM chatbots, as they currently exist, to get a good lay of the land on any subject that you're not previously familiar with. Diabolically, this is a very Dunning-Kruger prone situation.
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“It's making me dumber for sure,” the fintech software developer told me. “It's like when we got cellphones and stopped remembering phone numbers, but it's grown to me mentally outsourcing ‘thinking’ in general. I feel my critical thinking and ability to sit and reason about a problem or a design has degraded because the all-knowing-dalai-llama is just a question away from giving me his take. And supposedly I tell myself ill just use it for inspiration but it ends up being my only thought. It gives you the illusion of productivity and expertise but at the end of the day you are more divorced from the output you submit than before.”
https://www.404media.co/software-developers-say-ai-is-rotting-their-brains/@tante Except it's not "all-knowing Dalai Lama", it's a "know-nothing Ron Hubbard"
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