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This one takes the cake.🤷

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  • mokhtarstork@sciences.socialM mokhtarstork@sciences.social

    @mastodonmigration @jeeynet Something is definitely not right here. Is there a way to handle it legally?

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    #17

    @MokhtarStork @mastodonmigration @jeeynet this is not new - Rick Beato has been ranting about rampant egregious copyright strike bots on YouTube for a couple of years now. When Danny Sapko, Professor of Rock and Justin Hawkins were also getting hit hard for discussing music tracks on their channels a few months ago they all got together with him to work out how to handle it. He has a lawyer looking after the dozens of strike notices he gets every day...

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    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

      This one takes the cake.🤷

      Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

      Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

      "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

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      AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

      Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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      h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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      #18

      @mastodonmigration @jeeynet thanks, I'm now the 24st fan of Murphy Campbell on deezer...

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      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

        This one takes the cake.🤷

        Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

        Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

        "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

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        AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

        Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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        h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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        #19

        @mastodonmigration @jeeynet We are so f*cked

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          This one takes the cake.🤷

          Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

          Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

          "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

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          AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

          Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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          Rude Vulture (rudevulture.com)

          h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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          #20

          @mastodonmigration We need jail time for copyright scams.

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          • mastor666@mastodon.socialM mastor666@mastodon.social

            @mastodonmigration @jeeynet thanks, I'm now the 24st fan of Murphy Campbell on deezer...

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            #21

            @mastor666 @mastodonmigration @jeeynet Heh, I just bought the album on bandcamp. It good!

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            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

              This one takes the cake.🤷

              Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

              Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

              "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

              Link Preview Image
              AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

              Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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              h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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              #22

              @mastodonmigration @jeeynet #AI already took the cake...now it's eating it too

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              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                This one takes the cake.🤷

                Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                Link Preview Image
                AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                #23

                @mastodonmigration I hereby renew my request to the Unicode committee for a new emoji much needed for these times, something that roughly translates to 🤦‍♂️❌💯

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                • nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN nicelymanifest@mastodon.social

                  @mastodonmigration @jeeynet Beyond parody. Utterly insane insensitivity. But the music industry is renowned for ripping off artists.

                  She probably should sue but who wants t9o go down that route as an individual against a business?

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                  @NicelyManifest @mastodonmigration @jeeynet
                  She could dispute the claims, but the only way to do that involves doxxing yourself.

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                  • dec23k@mastodon.ieD dec23k@mastodon.ie

                    @NicelyManifest @mastodonmigration @jeeynet
                    She could dispute the claims, but the only way to do that involves doxxing yourself.

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                    @dec23k @mastodonmigration @jeeynet Doxxing?

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                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                      This one takes the cake.🤷

                      Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                      Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                      "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                      Link Preview Image
                      AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                      Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                      h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                      @mastodonmigration @jeeynet See, that's the problem:

                      • #LackOfAccountability & #LackOfConsequences!
                        • False #DMCA strikes do not incur any actual actual #penalty.
                        • #FalseClaims do not get said claimant banned from claiming if not jailed.

                      Shit like this is why #Copyright is intrinsically linked to #Authorship (in any decent juristiction) and only humans can legally create copyrightable works!

                      • I hope she'll get support and sues the offenders beyond insolvency and into #jail for this #theft!
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                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                        This one takes the cake.🤷

                        Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                        Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                        "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                        Link Preview Image
                        AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                        Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                        h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                        @mastodonmigration This is nightmarish.

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                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                          This one takes the cake.🤷

                          Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                          Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                          "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                          Link Preview Image
                          AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                          Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                          h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                          @mastodonmigration This, in my eyes, is another reason not to use YouTube. They have questionable design patterns. YouTube stopped being the underdog a while ago. We need to diversify away from YouTube. @jeeynet

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            This one takes the cake.🤷

                            Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                            Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                            "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                            Link Preview Image
                            AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                            Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                            Rude Vulture (rudevulture.com)

                            h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                            @mastodonmigration @jeeynet

                            We need a separate internet.

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              This one takes the cake.🤷

                              Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                              Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                              "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                              Link Preview Image
                              AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                              Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                              h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                              @mastodonmigration @jeeynet "That fabricated music was then distributed across platforms using a company called Vydia. Vydia then proceeded to file copyright claims against the original source videos on Campbell’s own YouTube channel " #NameAndShame

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                              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                This one takes the cake.🤷

                                Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                                Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                                "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                                Link Preview Image
                                AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                                Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                                h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                                @jeeynet @mastodonmigration

                                The entire copyright system built over the last several decades is inherently oppressive and extractive, assuming guilt and requiring people to challenge an prove their innocence. As someone who is most likely to post my own students and ensembles playing I get copy strikes all the time and have for years, on public domain works because the system is built around the premise that the first person to register a performance own the work.

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                                • nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN nicelymanifest@mastodon.social

                                  @dec23k @mastodonmigration @jeeynet Doxxing?

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                                  @NicelyManifest @mastodonmigration @jeeynet
                                  Providing all of your personal information (to YouTube and the claimant), the whole truth and nothing but the truth, under pain of perjury if you get anything wrong or leave anything out.

                                  edit: Doxxing (from 'documenting') was originally a term for non-consensual leaks of any personal info, usually done as revenge.

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                                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                    This one takes the cake.🤷

                                    Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                                    Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                                    "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                                    Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                                    @mastodonmigration @jeeynet ai is the biggest thief and scam on the planet

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                                    • dec23k@mastodon.ieD dec23k@mastodon.ie

                                      @NicelyManifest @mastodonmigration @jeeynet
                                      Providing all of your personal information (to YouTube and the claimant), the whole truth and nothing but the truth, under pain of perjury if you get anything wrong or leave anything out.

                                      edit: Doxxing (from 'documenting') was originally a term for non-consensual leaks of any personal info, usually done as revenge.

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                                      @dec23k @mastodonmigration @jeeynet Many thanks. I am suitably informed.

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                                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                        This one takes the cake.🤷

                                        Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                                        Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                                        "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                                        Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                                        h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                                        @mastodonmigration see also https://buttondown.com/creativegood/archive/good-news-in-the-fight-against-big-tech/

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                                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                          This one takes the cake.🤷

                                          Seems like a new scam is AI companies making infringement claims against the musicians they scraped for sounding like themselves.

                                          Turns out it works because the claims are adjudicated by, you guessed it, AI agents.

                                          "Because YouTube’s copyright claim system operates without individual human review of each dispute, Campbell’s channel was effectively handed over [to the AI company.]"

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          AI Company Clones Musician’s Voice, Then Copyright-Strikes Her Own Songs

                                          Folk musician Murphy Campbell found herself at the center of a major ordeal when an entity called Timeless Sounds IR uploaded AI-generated imitations of her music to every major music platform, then used her recordings to strip her of her own income. According to sources, the scheme worked like this: someone fed YouTube videos of ... Read more

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                                          h/t @jeeynet https://framapiaf.org/@jeeynet/116359059101502550

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                                          @mastodonmigration @jeeynet cc @SurlyAcres

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