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"While encryption remains mathematically sound (...) its real-world protections are increasingly bypassed by the privileged position AI systems occupy inside modern user environments."

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  • dw_innovation@mastodon.socialD dw_innovation@mastodon.social

    "While encryption remains mathematically sound (...) its real-world protections are increasingly bypassed by the privileged position AI systems occupy inside modern user environments."

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    @dw_innovation Disappointing to see Signal jump on the anti-AI bandwagon. Given vulnerabilities seen in android notifications, windows, and nearly every OS the client can run in I don't see how AI changes this at all

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    • dw_innovation@mastodon.socialD dw_innovation@mastodon.social

      "While encryption remains mathematically sound (...) its real-world protections are increasingly bypassed by the privileged position AI systems occupy inside modern user environments."

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      Signal president warns AI agents are making encryption irrelevant

      Signal president Meredith Whittaker said AI agents embedded within operating systems are eroding the practical security guarantees of E2EE.

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      #AI #security #privacy

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      @dw_innovation Linux... It's easy now.

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        @Whimsy @dw_innovation Correct. If you're using a hostile OS it's already to late. It's like complaining about MS implementing AI in OneDrive, it doesn't make files less secure because the backdoor is already wide open. If signal can send notifications through Androids system manager then Google/government/etc have already seen your messages. I'm sure windows is no better.

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          @Whimsy @dw_innovation If I'm trusting the lock picking lawyer with the spare keys to my house for safe keeping, I'm not going to panic when he gets another new lock picking tool.

          But if I'm anti-lock pick I'll be unhappy at him getting a new tool regardless of actual risk.

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            @dw_innovation Disappointing to see Signal jump on the anti-AI bandwagon. Given vulnerabilities seen in android notifications, windows, and nearly every OS the client can run in I don't see how AI changes this at all

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            @kneoghau @dw_innovation Anti-AI bandwagon? There must be a lot of room to jump on that wagon, compared to the rolling Jonestown carrying the pro-AI boosters.

            Maybe Mozilla can send Signal some sloppy mushrooms to change their mind?

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              @Kerplunk @dw_innovation
              #Cryptonomicon is a book worth reading, for several reasons including amusement, and has an interesting appendix on a card game.

              Try not to mention the #Crocodile

              #SciFi #NealStephenson #Encryption

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              • mimblewimble@mastodon.socialM mimblewimble@mastodon.social

                @dw_innovation Linux... It's easy now.

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                @mimblewimble @dw_innovation Which Linux distro runs on a Samsung S22U?

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                • boysenberrycider@mastodon.socialB boysenberrycider@mastodon.social

                  @kneoghau @dw_innovation Anti-AI bandwagon? There must be a lot of room to jump on that wagon, compared to the rolling Jonestown carrying the pro-AI boosters.

                  Maybe Mozilla can send Signal some sloppy mushrooms to change their mind?

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                  @BoysenberryCider @dw_innovation I know mastadon has a heavy anti-AI bias, but if you think you're the majority why is the 5th most visited website on the internet chatgpt? Seems like the AI bandwagon is still bigger, despite social media echo chambers

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                    @BoysenberryCider @dw_innovation I know mastadon has a heavy anti-AI bias, but if you think you're the majority why is the 5th most visited website on the internet chatgpt? Seems like the AI bandwagon is still bigger, despite social media echo chambers

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                    @kneoghau @dw_innovation That's exactly my point, AI has a far bigger bandwagon than a few malcontents on a non-mainstream social platform. Likewise, every other tech company is on that AI bandwagon, so it's more of a surprise that Signal isn't (contrast Telegram, which cut an opaque deal with Musk to incorporate Grok).

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                    • dw_innovation@mastodon.socialD dw_innovation@mastodon.social

                      "While encryption remains mathematically sound (...) its real-world protections are increasingly bypassed by the privileged position AI systems occupy inside modern user environments."

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                      Signal president warns AI agents are making encryption irrelevant

                      Signal president Meredith Whittaker said AI agents embedded within operating systems are eroding the practical security guarantees of E2EE.

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                      CyberInsider (cyberinsider.com)

                      #AI #security #privacy

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                      @dw_innovation given the fact that @signalapp is hard-locked on #aws, and thus subject to #CloudAct, "#Ai" - #Malware is the least of their problems!

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