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My employer, like so many others, has been forcing the use of hallucination machines.

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  • minego@pdx.socialM minego@pdx.social

    My employer, like so many others, has been forcing the use of hallucination machines. During a meeting recently we were talking about using it, and I referred to it as "it".

    Obviously, it is proper English to do so. But, one coworker was shocked by this and asked me why I used that word. I calmly explained that it is a large very flawed statistical model and nothing more, so "it" is the appropriate word.

    I think that blew their mind. Their reaction was just silence.

    I miss actual intelligence

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    @minego I noticed the slightly more positive term 'Text Processor' for it today.

    I like 'automatic writing', but that's human operated (the uninitiated should see Yeats)

    Inteligence is a misnomer.

    Too late though, the framing is complete?

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    • mms@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      @mdione @minego TBF I'm thinking of caling it "Atntropic Claude" to accent that it's a product. Just like when I always write "Google Youtube' or "Microsoft GIthub" to show that it's a not a nice, indie service.

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      @mms
      @mdione I like this

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      • minego@pdx.socialM minego@pdx.social

        My employer, like so many others, has been forcing the use of hallucination machines. During a meeting recently we were talking about using it, and I referred to it as "it".

        Obviously, it is proper English to do so. But, one coworker was shocked by this and asked me why I used that word. I calmly explained that it is a large very flawed statistical model and nothing more, so "it" is the appropriate word.

        I think that blew their mind. Their reaction was just silence.

        I miss actual intelligence

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        @minego actual intelligence? You mean ai? ๐Ÿ˜Š

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        • minego@pdx.socialM minego@pdx.social

          My employer, like so many others, has been forcing the use of hallucination machines. During a meeting recently we were talking about using it, and I referred to it as "it".

          Obviously, it is proper English to do so. But, one coworker was shocked by this and asked me why I used that word. I calmly explained that it is a large very flawed statistical model and nothing more, so "it" is the appropriate word.

          I think that blew their mind. Their reaction was just silence.

          I miss actual intelligence

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          phosphenes@mastodon.social
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          @minego

          You are literally erasing my AI with your wrong pronouns.

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          • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

            @minego The most disturbing thing to me is that, if we were to genuinely believe that these models were conscious individuals, then using them would be slavery and exploitation. Thankfully they're not conscious, of course, but the fact that so many people blithely use these models while pretending they are (or soon will be) conscious is still incredibly disturbing and says something about us.

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            @stveje @minego

            Yes, it says that a very large portion of humanity would happily be exploitative slavers if it were easy and acceptable enough.

            Of course, we already know this from centuries (millennia?) of history with actual human slavery.

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            • tjbutt58@infosec.exchangeT tjbutt58@infosec.exchange

              @minego my zoologist friends at uni were carefully instructed not to anthropomorphise animals. AI is even riskier, as we may start to care about it, and that will definitely be a selling point. ๐Ÿ’€

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              @tjbutt58 @minego
              Yes, students are often still indoctrinated to view non-human animals as automatons, notwithstanding decades of research proving their feelings, emotions, thoughts and capabilities of tool creation, tool use, and planning.

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              • minego@pdx.socialM minego@pdx.social

                My employer, like so many others, has been forcing the use of hallucination machines. During a meeting recently we were talking about using it, and I referred to it as "it".

                Obviously, it is proper English to do so. But, one coworker was shocked by this and asked me why I used that word. I calmly explained that it is a large very flawed statistical model and nothing more, so "it" is the appropriate word.

                I think that blew their mind. Their reaction was just silence.

                I miss actual intelligence

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                @minego people actually expect us to refer to a text predictor which is nor intelligent nor even an actual robot with a human pronoun?

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                • minego@pdx.socialM minego@pdx.social

                  My employer, like so many others, has been forcing the use of hallucination machines. During a meeting recently we were talking about using it, and I referred to it as "it".

                  Obviously, it is proper English to do so. But, one coworker was shocked by this and asked me why I used that word. I calmly explained that it is a large very flawed statistical model and nothing more, so "it" is the appropriate word.

                  I think that blew their mind. Their reaction was just silence.

                  I miss actual intelligence

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                  @minego what pronoun so they use for it!

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                  • msokolov@fosstodon.orgM msokolov@fosstodon.org

                    @minego what pronoun so they use for it!

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                    #37

                    @msokolov They used he/him because that's what anthropic uses for claude.

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                    • janneke@todon.nlJ janneke@todon.nl

                      @tjbutt58 @minego
                      Yes, students are often still indoctrinated to view non-human animals as automatons, notwithstanding decades of research proving their feelings, emotions, thoughts and capabilities of tool creation, tool use, and planning.

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                      @janneke @minego I think the point was not that animals were automata, but that, for instance, a cat behaves like a cat. There is a tendency to attribute human motivation to animal behaviour.

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                      • minego@pdx.socialM minego@pdx.social

                        @jocafa
                        @nyquildotorg Yup.

                        I don't blame the person who did it. The companies pushing this use gendered names and pronouns. They want people to treat it like a person. The lies these companies are pushing is the problem.

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                        @minego @jocafa @nyquildotorg
                        "Chad"

                        If they are going to act like the thing they pay $15/month for is as good as a real person, I think the best name for it is Chad.

                        "Chad made this mistake while I was working with him and while he agreed with me and apologized he just kept making the same mistake."

                        "Chad rewrote everything adding extra words, flowering it up. He turned it into total bullshit."

                        "Chad never admits he can't do something."

                        "Maybe it is time we talked about firing Chad."

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                        • urban_hermit@mstdn.socialU urban_hermit@mstdn.social

                          @minego @jocafa @nyquildotorg
                          "Chad"

                          If they are going to act like the thing they pay $15/month for is as good as a real person, I think the best name for it is Chad.

                          "Chad made this mistake while I was working with him and while he agreed with me and apologized he just kept making the same mistake."

                          "Chad rewrote everything adding extra words, flowering it up. He turned it into total bullshit."

                          "Chad never admits he can't do something."

                          "Maybe it is time we talked about firing Chad."

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                          @Urban_Hermit

                          The choice of Claude is interesting to me, because when written it sounds like a name a smartass might have, but when spoken it sounds like the name a dumbass might have. (Clod.)

                          @minego @jocafa

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