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Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now?

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  • jimmylittle@hachyderm.ioJ jimmylittle@hachyderm.io

    @techokami @marekfort @Gargron I repeat…

    Lawyers ruin everything. 🫠

    techokami@woof.techT This user is from outside of this forum
    techokami@woof.techT This user is from outside of this forum
    techokami@woof.tech
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    #62

    @jimmylittle @marekfort @Gargron take a step back and reassess the question.
    *Why* does *A TEXT EDITOR* require a ToS? What is the text editor *DOING* that makes this something that is even needed in the first place?

    I looked into it, and apparently it's because this editor is filled to the brim with AI generative bullshit.

    Why does such a thing need to exist?

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    • gereon@chaos.socialG gereon@chaos.social

      @tsturm I think I‘m gonna give Gram a try … https://gram.liten.app

      achadwick@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      achadwick@ohai.social
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      #63

      @gereon @tsturm saw the Gram fork the other day in a different place. I'm not a Zed user, but the Gram author certainly seem to have the right idea on their blog:

      https://gram.liten.app/posts/go-slow-and-fix-things/
      https://gram.liten.app/posts/why/

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      • techokami@woof.techT techokami@woof.tech

        @jimmylittle @marekfort @Gargron take a step back and reassess the question.
        *Why* does *A TEXT EDITOR* require a ToS? What is the text editor *DOING* that makes this something that is even needed in the first place?

        I looked into it, and apparently it's because this editor is filled to the brim with AI generative bullshit.

        Why does such a thing need to exist?

        jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ This user is from outside of this forum
        jeremiahfieldhaven@mastodon.gamedev.place
        wrote last edited by
        #64

        @techokami @jimmylittle @marekfort And telemetry. Why does a text editor need telemetry? *Excellent question!*

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        • marekfort@mastodon.onlineM marekfort@mastodon.online

          Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

          ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
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          ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu
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          #65

          @marekfort sigh, I swear, every time I use something that isn't idealistically OSS, it burns me in some way or the other.

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          • marekfort@mastodon.onlineM marekfort@mastodon.online

            Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

            residuum@digitalcourage.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            residuum@digitalcourage.social
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            #66

            @marekfort
            Me RN.

            $ flatpak remove Zed

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            • marekfort@mastodon.onlineM marekfort@mastodon.online

              Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

              sofia@bottom.businessS This user is from outside of this forum
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              sofia@bottom.business
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              #67

              @marekfort@mastodon.online
              if that agreement is for the editor itself, that is unambiguously against the GPL's "further restrictions" clause

              You may not impose any further restrictions on the exercise of the rights granted or affirmed under this License
              as such rights include
              This License explicitly affirms your unlimited permission to run the unmodified Program
              though if it refers so a serverside component i'm not sure how that might work out

              it's also worth noting that zed requires a CLA, so that technically doesn't allow contributors to sue them, one thing is for sure though, any fork of zed with those terms would automatically be illegal, since forks don't have full copyright over the original code, only the rights granted by the license, and as such are unambiguously liable for violating it

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              • marekfort@mastodon.onlineM marekfort@mastodon.online

                Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

                kazukyakayashi@social.zarchbox.frK This user is from outside of this forum
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                kazukyakayashi@social.zarchbox.fr
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                #68

                @marekfort ... ...

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                • sofia@bottom.businessS sofia@bottom.business

                  @marekfort@mastodon.online
                  if that agreement is for the editor itself, that is unambiguously against the GPL's "further restrictions" clause

                  You may not impose any further restrictions on the exercise of the rights granted or affirmed under this License
                  as such rights include
                  This License explicitly affirms your unlimited permission to run the unmodified Program
                  though if it refers so a serverside component i'm not sure how that might work out

                  it's also worth noting that zed requires a CLA, so that technically doesn't allow contributors to sue them, one thing is for sure though, any fork of zed with those terms would automatically be illegal, since forks don't have full copyright over the original code, only the rights granted by the license, and as such are unambiguously liable for violating it

                  sofia@bottom.businessS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  sofia@bottom.business
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                  #69

                  @marekfort@mastodon.online just checked the full terms, and the wording in the screenshot is misleading, the full terms actually say

                  Subject to these Terms, Zed will permit Customer to access and use Zed’s AI-enabled software-as-a-service offering (the “Service”), which enables certain additional features and functionality (including artificial intelligence and collaboration features) in Zed’s open source code editing software (“Software”).
                  Customer must be at least 18 years old to use the Service.
                  which is obviously still an immoral restriction, but with no legal implications afaik (unless the server software has a similar license, but that's pretty rare)

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                  • marekfort@mastodon.onlineM marekfort@mastodon.online

                    Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

                    panda@pandas.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    panda@pandas.social
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                    #70

                    @marekfort you must be 18 for subscriptions to ai slop generators

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                    • marekfort@mastodon.onlineM marekfort@mastodon.online

                      Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

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                      nilclass@infosec.exchange
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                      #71

                      @marekfort If the world continues down this path, soon it will be harder to *enter* VIM than to *quit* it

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