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  • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

    @oldclumsy_nowmad Oh, that's a PERFECT example of what went wrong with BAFTA! That other driver isn't at fault for blanking out, but he IS at fault for choosing to drive if he knew it might be hazardous to other people.

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    @msbellows

    Yes! A medical condition doesn't excuse us from responsibility. It's appropriate to be angry when people knowingly put us at risk.

    However, it isn't right to infer, without additional evidence, that a socially unacceptable behavior necessarily reveals a secret "mindset" of the offender. And it's really dumb to think like this: "There! I knew it! That bald guy tried to run me off the road! It's true that bald men hate people with long hair like mine!"

    Thanks for posting!

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    • katrinakatrinka@infosec.exchangeK katrinakatrinka@infosec.exchange

      @msbellows
      What you propose is not what happened. Therefore, not my argument. I'm not interested in "what ifs".

      "A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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      @katrinakatrinka He did both. I'm asking which one troubled you. You're being evasive, which means you see this as an argument rather than a discussion, and therefore you're not worth my time. Goodbye and be well, if that's possible for you.

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      • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Jakra And to many of us older Blacks,that word is an insult. Period.

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        • cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.comC cairobraga@gts.cairobraga.com

          @IveyJanette @venitamathias they didn't edit this out, but they censored a Palestinian filmmaker saying "Free Palestine". this were deliberate decisions by the BBC.

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          @cairobraga @venitamathias The BBC did its version of the same selective editing that Fox routinely does whenever Trump shows up at sporting events not named NASCAR or LIV Golf: edit out the boos.

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          • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

            Bullshit.

            #blackmastodon
            https://newsone.com/6850753/tourettes-tic-blamed-nword-being-yelled-baftas/

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            This is why the apology is not being accepted:

            #blackmastodon https://newsone.com/6850861/black-people-dont-have-accept-john-davidson-apology/

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            • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

              @cairobraga @venitamathias The BBC did its version of the same selective editing that Fox routinely does whenever Trump shows up at sporting events not named NASCAR or LIV Golf: edit out the boos.

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              @IveyJanette @cairobraga
              Great example. We know what's up.

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              • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                @ErickaSimone @venitamathias Blocked for ableism. Be kinder.

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                @msbellows @ErickaSimone You should block me because I will never enable racist behavior. Period.

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                • venitamathias@masto.aiV venitamathias@masto.ai

                  @IveyJanette @cairobraga
                  Great example. We know what's up.

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                  @venitamathias @cairobraga When Trump was at the Super Bowl last year and at the Commanders game? Fox piped in fake cheers,even though the crowd booed him vociferously. ESPN did the same thing when he showed up at the US Open in Queens. Conform or be cast out.

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                  • peachmcd@union.placeP peachmcd@union.place

                    @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                    "Apologies are extended 'if you are offended.' 

                    If. As though the harm is hypothetical and the racial slur exists only in the realm of personal sensitivity.  If. As though what happened depends on whether Black people choose to register it. That phrasing shifts the harm from something that happened to something people might feel. The problem subtly relocates from the racial act to Black folks’ reaction."

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                    @PeachMcD I mean I think to ppl like roche harm to black people is indeed hypothetical--given I had to nearly cuss them out for them to even acknowledge the use of the slur was harmful.

                    Now it's context this and context that, except, conveniently, for the context of the harm it causes Black people

                    Their use of "debate" is very revealing because the ppl in the thread they initially responded were not in a debate. They were in pain. But Black pain is always up for debate and discussion on here.

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                    • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                      @katrinakatrinka He did both. I'm asking which one troubled you. You're being evasive, which means you see this as an argument rather than a discussion, and therefore you're not worth my time. Goodbye and be well, if that's possible for you.

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                      @msbellows
                      "I'm asking..."

                      You're "refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction."

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                      • venitamathias@masto.aiV venitamathias@masto.ai

                        @msbellows @ErickaSimone You should block me because I will never enable racist behavior. Period.

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                        @venitamathias @msbellows let him know we know he only blocks black women holding him accountable. Not other white people doing the same though.

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                        • thiswomanswerk@blacktwitter.ioT thiswomanswerk@blacktwitter.io

                          @PeachMcD I mean I think to ppl like roche harm to black people is indeed hypothetical--given I had to nearly cuss them out for them to even acknowledge the use of the slur was harmful.

                          Now it's context this and context that, except, conveniently, for the context of the harm it causes Black people

                          Their use of "debate" is very revealing because the ppl in the thread they initially responded were not in a debate. They were in pain. But Black pain is always up for debate and discussion on here.

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                          @thiswomanswerk

                          I'm quick to mute tone deaf reply guys & to follow/boost #BIPOC voices here

                          X is such a toxic space - I want #BlackMastodon to be a place folks can replicate that synergy & freedom without the ads & algorithms

                          Solidarity from Tacoma!
                          🕊🇵🇸

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                          • rochelimit@tilde.zoneR rochelimit@tilde.zone

                            @thiswomanswerk
                            My first comment was to agree with a black poster, that it is wrong to suggest that a person with a neurological condition should be kept away from the ceremony because words, which do not represent that person's feelings, will cause upset.

                            The idea that one innocent group should be protected at the expense of another is something worth debating, isn't it? When balancing rights, the importance of context cannot be ignored.

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                            @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                            I am begging you to stop telling Black people how they should respond to experiencing racism.

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                            • erickasimone@mastodon.socialE erickasimone@mastodon.social

                              @venitamathias @msbellows let him know we know he only blocks black women holding him accountable. Not other white people doing the same though.

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                              @ErickaSimone @msbellows He should protect his peace. I definitely protect mine.

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                              • stevegis_ssg@mas.toS stevegis_ssg@mas.to

                                @rochelimit @thiswomanswerk

                                I am begging you to stop telling Black people how they should respond to experiencing racism.

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                                @stevegis_ssg
                                I stopped over 12 h ago when I realised my server had only shown me one post from this thread and that I'd rudely intruded in the middle bigger and rather private discussion.
                                @thiswomanswerk

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                                • iveyjanette@mastodon.socialI iveyjanette@mastodon.social

                                  Bullshit.

                                  #blackmastodon
                                  https://newsone.com/6850753/tourettes-tic-blamed-nword-being-yelled-baftas/

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                                  Here's a response from a Black woman with Tourette's:

                                  #blackmastodon https://newsone.com/6850785/black-woman-with-tourettes-offers-context-to-bafta-incident/

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                                  • venitamathias@masto.aiV venitamathias@masto.ai

                                    @ErickaSimone @msbellows He should protect his peace. I definitely protect mine.

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                                    #105

                                    @venitamathias @msbellows he deserves no peace.

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