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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

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  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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    @Jeroen89

    Good point. But:
    How can one forget things never known?

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    • tkalvas@mastodontti.fiT tkalvas@mastodontti.fi

      @Uair @Jeroen89 It used to be much more fertile, but, especially in the south, very irrigation driven. Thousands of years of irrigation has caused salt buildup in the soil which has made it less fertile. The change has been quite slow in human terms, but very abrupt in natural terms.

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      @tkalvas

      Thank you.

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      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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        @Jeroen89

        When you can still imagine something that’s lost that’s something you might be able to get back.

        When folks can no longer imagine something that loss is much more profound.

        For a few days after 9/11 there was so much less particulate in the atmosphere younger folks could see things in the distance they had never seen before and there were still old folks who could remember and describe it.

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        • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

          @Jeroen89
          It also explains why older people like me often are very sad.

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          @footils @Jeroen89 yep. I've been thinking about it quite hard over the past couple of decades, and it's frankly devastating.

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          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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            @Jeroen89 it's heart breaking

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            • atlovato@mastodon.socialA atlovato@mastodon.social

              @phf @Jeroen89 Chop their Bank account for not paying their Fair share of Taxes is a start in the right direction.

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              @atlovato Only problem being that taking their money will not save the jungle.

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              • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

                @atlovato Only problem being that taking their money will not save the jungle.

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                @phf

                No but it can be Diverted to the wants and needs of "We The People", the folks who still may know what nature looks like and acts like. It ain't data centers.

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                • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                  @Uair I don't know. Although it might not look fertile, it's not uninhabitable.
                  And the world has had multiple natural climate changes in the last 4000 years.
                  To me that might be more of a natural change and less of a man made change.

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                  @Jeroen89 @Uair

                  At the rate we are using fertilizers & other chemicals on our lands they will be good for nothing. As the water rises in places like Florida a great % of those chemicals will wash into the Gulf. Those changes you speak of happened over thousands of years, not hundreds. In addition we have the same amount of CO2 as we had in the Pliocene 420ppm or so. At the time where I live was a Jungle, I'm in Alaska. So you don't have a clue not even a tiny one. I can see the glaciers melt.

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                  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                    @Jeroen89

                    This is 100% true.

                    and sad 😔

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                    • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                      @Jeroen89
                      It also explains why older people like me often are very sad.

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                      @footils @Jeroen89

                      I remember there used to be way more insects at night, even just 20 years ago, let alone 40.

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                      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                        @Jeroen89

                        I didn't know this had a name but it resonates with me.... I remember how amazing the Milky Way used to look at night and how even in 'dark sky zones' it just isn't as vibrant

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                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                          @Jeroen89 ok, but it's pretty ironic that you're illustrating this with AI style graphics

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                          @sarae What are some of the AI styles?

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                          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                            @Jeroen89 Maybe there should be an indigenous person in the 1800 frame.

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                            • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                              Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                              Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                              #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                              @Jeroen89 is it ai generated picture? It contains a strange mixture of european and north american species, which may be typical nowadays, but not in 1800.

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                              • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                @Jeroen89
                                Before 40 years scientists warn us for a "silent" spring, because there will be less birds and insects. Since ca. 10 years it goes more and more silent in our gardens.... Sad.

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                                • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                  Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                  Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                  #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                  RE: https://mastodon-belgium.be/@Jeroen89/116493556060663013

                                  @Jeroen89 can't remember the last time I heard bugs on a windshield

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                                  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                    @Jeroen89

                                    frogs in a pot

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                                    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                      Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                      Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                      #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                      @Jeroen89 at least people are working on reversal strategies
                                      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/398447583_Recovering_what_Reversing_Shifting_Baseline_Syndrome_to_enable_nature_recovery_in_UK_National_Parks

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                                      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                        @Jeroen89 if you read some of the accounts of the original settlers and explorers of the American west, they describe wildlife so diverse and plentiful that it sounds exaggerated, hardly real or believable to us... but it was real. You could live off the land and want for nothing.

                                        It's extremely depressing to visit the same places today and see how little is left.

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                                        • martaczc@mastodon.com.plM martaczc@mastodon.com.pl

                                          @Jeroen89 is it ai generated picture? It contains a strange mixture of european and north american species, which may be typical nowadays, but not in 1800.

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                                          @martaczc this appears to be the original source:
                                          https://www.facebook.com/weareparklanelandscapes/posts/pfbid0Q5N7mYUxe12PJ4rnnFBqZW7LDU4gMGQTih54ofHo94MFJYtGhn2NvW62dTFc6oxUl

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