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Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be.

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  • phf@dmv.communityP phf@dmv.community

    @atlovato Only problem being that taking their money will not save the jungle.

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    @phf

    No but it can be Diverted to the wants and needs of "We The People", the folks who still may know what nature looks like and acts like. It ain't data centers.

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    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

      @Uair I don't know. Although it might not look fertile, it's not uninhabitable.
      And the world has had multiple natural climate changes in the last 4000 years.
      To me that might be more of a natural change and less of a man made change.

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      @Jeroen89 @Uair

      At the rate we are using fertilizers & other chemicals on our lands they will be good for nothing. As the water rises in places like Florida a great % of those chemicals will wash into the Gulf. Those changes you speak of happened over thousands of years, not hundreds. In addition we have the same amount of CO2 as we had in the Pliocene 420ppm or so. At the time where I live was a Jungle, I'm in Alaska. So you don't have a clue not even a tiny one. I can see the glaciers melt.

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      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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        @Jeroen89

        This is 100% true.

        and sad 😔

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        • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

          @Jeroen89
          It also explains why older people like me often are very sad.

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          @footils @Jeroen89

          I remember there used to be way more insects at night, even just 20 years ago, let alone 40.

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          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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            @Jeroen89

            I didn't know this had a name but it resonates with me.... I remember how amazing the Milky Way used to look at night and how even in 'dark sky zones' it just isn't as vibrant

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            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

              @Jeroen89 ok, but it's pretty ironic that you're illustrating this with AI style graphics

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              @sarae What are some of the AI styles?

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              • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

                kete@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Jeroen89 Maybe there should be an indigenous person in the 1800 frame.

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                • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                  Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                  Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                  #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                  @Jeroen89 is it ai generated picture? It contains a strange mixture of european and north american species, which may be typical nowadays, but not in 1800.

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                  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                    @Jeroen89
                    Before 40 years scientists warn us for a "silent" spring, because there will be less birds and insects. Since ca. 10 years it goes more and more silent in our gardens.... Sad.

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                    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                      Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                      Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                      #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                      RE: https://mastodon-belgium.be/@Jeroen89/116493556060663013

                      @Jeroen89 can't remember the last time I heard bugs on a windshield

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                      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                        @Jeroen89

                        frogs in a pot

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                        • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                          Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                          Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                          #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                          @Jeroen89 at least people are working on reversal strategies
                          https://www.researchgate.net/publication/398447583_Recovering_what_Reversing_Shifting_Baseline_Syndrome_to_enable_nature_recovery_in_UK_National_Parks

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                          • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                            Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                            Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                            #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                            @Jeroen89 if you read some of the accounts of the original settlers and explorers of the American west, they describe wildlife so diverse and plentiful that it sounds exaggerated, hardly real or believable to us... but it was real. You could live off the land and want for nothing.

                            It's extremely depressing to visit the same places today and see how little is left.

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                            • martaczc@mastodon.com.plM martaczc@mastodon.com.pl

                              @Jeroen89 is it ai generated picture? It contains a strange mixture of european and north american species, which may be typical nowadays, but not in 1800.

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                              @martaczc this appears to be the original source:
                              https://www.facebook.com/weareparklanelandscapes/posts/pfbid0Q5N7mYUxe12PJ4rnnFBqZW7LDU4gMGQTih54ofHo94MFJYtGhn2NvW62dTFc6oxUl

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                              • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                @Jeroen89 I miss the fireflies from my childhood.

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                                • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                  Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                  Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                  #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                  @Jeroen89 I experienced a sort of wake up call to this visiting where I grew up for the first time in a decade. It was the first time I ever saw wild grasses there as hues of brown and yellow instead of green. Growing up, it was the greenest place I had ever seen. Even photos of other places didn't compare. It felt like the entire area, not just the people and the infrastructure, but the land itself was dying in front of me. It was horrifying.

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                                  • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                    Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                    Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                    #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                    @Jeroen89 I looked at the image without reading the text and at first understood it as "this is what regeneration can look like", with baseline at the top and what could be in a few decades at the bottom.

                                    Join your local bushcare / bush regeneration / land care / ecological restoration group. ✊💚

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                                    • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                      Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                      Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                      #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                      @Jeroen89
                                      The ever lowering baseline. I remember when thousands and thousands of salmon came up my river to spawn in the fall. Today's people get excited by a couple hundred fish. The meadows in my home creek watershed were 98% CA native. Then in early 2020 some do gooders weed whacked 5 miles of the verge of the rd. Required by the state for a pot growing permit. They introduced 5 highly invasive species because they came with seed contaminated weedwhackers. Then they weed whacked again the next year and spread inavasive seeds far and wide, as a requirement for their stupid pot grow, when all the newly introduced invasives were setting seeds. It's unbelievable how fast those introduced invasive annual grasses, moved from the rd to ridge tops covering average, and have wiped out the incredible plant diversity that coexisted in our meadows for thousands of years. . The human new comers have no idea of the tragedy that has unfolded because of their stupid weed whacking . The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And our fire hazard has increased 1000 fold with these annual grasses that build up thick mats of bone dry tinder by May ,and our lovely diverse low growing , fire resilient , native meadows are almost gone. It's unbelievable how quickly the destruction occured. And the next generation will know that man made out of balance mess . . as normal.

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                                      • jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.beJ jeroen89@mastodon-belgium.be

                                        Shifting baseline syndrome ( #SBS ) is what happens when we forget how vibrant the natural world used to be. Each generation grows up with a more depleted environment and calls it “normal,” simply because it’s all they’ve ever known.

                                        Researchers warn that this shift lowers our expectations, increases our tolerance for decline, and reduces our urgency to protect what’s left.

                                        #climatechange #climate #timeisup #theworstisyettocome

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                                        @Jeroen89

                                        I've been driving interstate ( #australia) for the past 40 years...

                                        ... Early on, each time I stopped for gas, I had to scrape thick mush of dead insects off the car.

                                        I used to have fly screen mesh on the car grill so insects wouldn't clog the radiator.

                                        These days I travel less often, but there are only about 10-25% as many insects

                                        #insects #extinction

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                                        • cyrevolt@mastodon.socialC cyrevolt@mastodon.social

                                          @martaczc this appears to be the original source:
                                          https://www.facebook.com/weareparklanelandscapes/posts/pfbid0Q5N7mYUxe12PJ4rnnFBqZW7LDU4gMGQTih54ofHo94MFJYtGhn2NvW62dTFc6oxUl

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                                          @CyReVolt @martaczc It's by a random landscaping company that doesn't normally post illustrations, so I'm inclined to think yes, it's AI-generated.

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