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  3. IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code.

IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code.

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  • nlowell@zirk.usN nlowell@zirk.us

    @timbray

    What could possibly go wrong.

    I worked on those COBOL systems for much of my programming career. Made good living maintaining 60s and 70s spaghetti code (literally. the comments were all in Italian. I'm not kidding).

    Having AI guessing what the code might look like should give chills to everybody who uses money.

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    @nlowell @FknHannu @timbray What I want to know is how these models could possibly have been trained on enough COBOL to be even slightly correct. Are there mountains of public repos of COBOL I’m not aware of?

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    • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

      IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code. Uh…

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      @timbray Yes. Let them.

      Do. It.

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      • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

        IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code. Uh…

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        @timbray how many COBOL codebases have good test suites? I suspect none.

        How well do LLMs do without tests / types / guardrails?

        Best practice AFAIK is to run in parallel with prod. I guess they could try that, but it would take like a monthly billing cycle or a quarter to test one change.

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        • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

          IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code. Uh…

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          @timbray finally ending the shackles of evil big COBOL

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          • ibboard@hachyderm.ioI ibboard@hachyderm.io

            @timbray "If Anthropic's Claude or other large language models can understand, maintain, modernize, or even replace COBOL systems…"

            That "If" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting!

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            @ibboard @timbray Oh so that's what people meant when they said Artificial Intelligence is just a bunch of IF statements.

            if it's able to """"""understand""""" the code
            if it's able to maintain it
            if it's able to modernize it
            if it's able to replace it
            if a bunch of other stuff it's not able to do
            ...
            and most important of all

            if my grandma had wheels, she would've been a bike.

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            • scruss@xoxo.zoneS scruss@xoxo.zone

              @brooke @timbray
              s/stock market/rich people's yacht money/g was never more true

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              @scruss @brooke @timbray

              E.C.O.N.O.M.Y. — Estimated Count of Newly-Ordered Multimillionaire Yachts

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              • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code. Uh…

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                @timbray wtaf

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                • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                  IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code. Uh…

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                  @timbray I wonder how much of this is "now they are going to have to divert resources to deal with this nonsense" instead of it being a realistic competitor.

                  Kinda like, this DDoS of management attack will degrade their performance.

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                  • brooke@bikeshed.vibber.netB brooke@bikeshed.vibber.net

                    @timbray it's cool how facts don't matter in the stock market. it's just vibe finance

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                    @brooke @timbray
                    vibe trading vs vibe coding 1-0

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                    • timbray@cosocial.caT timbray@cosocial.ca

                      IBM crashes because we’re gonna YOLO a replacement for banking and credit-card back-ends, replacing billions of lines of COBOL with vibe code. Uh…

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                      @timbray webdev vibecoders and llm industry have one thing in common: they're both at the very end of a massively complex and fragile network of interdependant components/processes, and have seemingly no understanding of its complexity. that's how you get "we're just going to build a million datacenters in a year and then the agi will just rewrite everything in rust, simple🚀 "

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