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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

    Vote in November.

    va3ekr@mastodon.radioV billmcguire@mastodon.socialB grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG thaodan@mastodon.socialT finche@nrw.socialF 8 Replies Last reply
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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

      Vote in November.

      va3ekr@mastodon.radioV This user is from outside of this forum
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      @randahl I worry that in a world where Joe Rogan is popular, more voting is not going to help. More education might though

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      • va3ekr@mastodon.radioV va3ekr@mastodon.radio

        @randahl I worry that in a world where Joe Rogan is popular, more voting is not going to help. More education might though

        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @va3ekr @randahl

        more education would mean people realizing they need to vote

        is there a reason why you're downplaying voting? in an odd, false either/ or construct?

        in the usa, 1/3 are positively engaged, 1/3 are maga bigots, and 1/3 can't be bothered. maga are zombies, you can't do anything with them. so we have to focus on the that last 3rd

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          @mrose @randahl

          what does this mean? what bullets?

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            @LukefromDC @randahl

            right. to register that the people's will is being stolen, the people need to register their will with a vote

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @va3ekr @randahl

              more education would mean people realizing they need to vote

              is there a reason why you're downplaying voting? in an odd, false either/ or construct?

              in the usa, 1/3 are positively engaged, 1/3 are maga bigots, and 1/3 can't be bothered. maga are zombies, you can't do anything with them. so we have to focus on the that last 3rd

              tarheel@mstdn.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @benroyce

              @va3ekr @randahl

              Effective voting will help. Not some tilting-at-windmills "progressive" candidate who will probably lose in the general (but you'll feel good for your throwaway vote), but someone who can actually WIN. In NYC, that's Mamdani. In Montana, that's Steve Bullock.

              Strategic, effective voting, and, yes, more of it.

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              • tarheel@mstdn.ioT tarheel@mstdn.io

                @benroyce

                @va3ekr @randahl

                Effective voting will help. Not some tilting-at-windmills "progressive" candidate who will probably lose in the general (but you'll feel good for your throwaway vote), but someone who can actually WIN. In NYC, that's Mamdani. In Montana, that's Steve Bullock.

                Strategic, effective voting, and, yes, more of it.

                tarheel@mstdn.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @benroyce

                @va3ekr @randahl

                Although. I should ask: what kind of education were you envisioning?

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                  Vote in November.

                  billmcguire@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @randahl

                  November seems a long ways off. I am worried what he will be doing to appease Xi this weekend when they meet. I believe Xi knows he has trump by the balls & he may ask (not so nicely) for Taiwan, and I think trump will say okay. You can take it & we won't fight it.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                    Vote in November.

                    grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @randahl Not sure the rest of the world can chance leaving this up to Americans anymore. After all, they voted for the guy twice already.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @mrose @randahl

                      the votes are controlled by the states

                      red states may cheat but they're already red

                      what you're doing is called premature capitulation. it's a form of cowardice and weakness. merely because the malicious intend to do something, you act like they are already achieved it. weak

                      and the worst part is your false belief convinces people not to vote, so the real steal is this: suppressing the vote with lying cynicism. your attitude as the real cause of MAGA potentially winning

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                        Vote in November.

                        thaodan@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.

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                          @micchiato @mrose @randahl
                          Never forgot whom the Nazis copied when implementing concentration camp's and even later parts of the shoa.
                          I'm saying later parts here as the concentration camps was first to suppress resistance and condition society.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                            Vote in November.

                            finche@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @randahl

                            Why spreading nonsense messages making naive people believe WW II had to do with freedom of a free world?

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                              Vote in November.

                              jdgeoshack@social.vivaldi.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @randahl #resist #vote We can imprison the corrupt criminals running things if all of us #dropsinthebucketaddup

                              Spread hope all you other commenters, not despair. He who is not gathering is scattering.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                The free world did not beat Adolf Hitler to let amateur Hitler take over America.

                                Vote in November.

                                swggrkllr3rd@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @randahl Americans Abroad VOTE !!

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                                • tarheel@mstdn.ioT tarheel@mstdn.io

                                  @benroyce

                                  @va3ekr @randahl

                                  Although. I should ask: what kind of education were you envisioning?

                                  va3ekr@mastodon.radioV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @tarheel @benroyce@mastodon.social @randahl not sure type of education, but imagine one where critical thinking was possible. Where voting for a charlatan criminal narcissist was less appealing. One where undermining one's own self interests was acceptable as long as those you hated were punished - this concept seemed absurd. One that learned from history

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                                    @PhoenixWright @randahl

                                    not everyone i dislike is hitler

                                    some i dislike are mere weak loser trolls. who's only apparent desire in life is to lick hitler's boots. people like you

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                                    • finche@nrw.socialF finche@nrw.social

                                      @randahl

                                      Why spreading nonsense messages making naive people believe WW II had to do with freedom of a free world?

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                                      @finche @randahl

                                      because it's not nonsense? you are aware what fascism is, right, tenured history professor?

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                                        @Arapalla @randahl

                                        the votes are controlled by the states, not the feds. red states may mess around but they are already red states

                                        stop spreading defeatist lies that suppresses the turnout

                                        the real effect of your cynicism is mindless negativity suppressing voter turnout, and *that* is what gets MAGA elected, rather than any tampering

                                        and people don't revolt until they are hungry. that may be coming, but until then, we can stop it by voting

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                                        • thaodan@mastodon.socialT thaodan@mastodon.social

                                          @randahl I think that take is quite simplifying. The free world in the sense of US politics certainly didn't beat Hitler, it wasn't about freedom from my point of view. The US helped one evil to win over another. The consequences of these actions can be seen in the present. But focusing purely on US politics it can be still helpful to look into the point of view that got to this point. What where the motivations of previous administrations for war and how did it led there.

                                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @thaodan @randahl

                                          i'll further simplify:

                                          randahl's message is to fucking vote

                                          to choose better

                                          if we sustain that effort we eventually iterate to good

                                          the real problem is this weak self-defeating mindless trap of "nothing changes, everything the same waah waah." people sitting there like lumps and by their inaction the world certainly goes worse

                                          mental gymnastics trying to justify the lie it was always the same all the time

                                          and doing nothing else

                                          better. or worse

                                          we must make the choice

                                          paneerakbari@mas.toP wingedsnake@mastodon.berlinW thaodan@mastodon.socialT 3 Replies Last reply
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