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  3. I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that."

I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that."

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  • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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    I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that." A huge advantage for Google / Gemini.

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    • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

      I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that." A huge advantage for Google / Gemini.

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      .. or any company that, I guess, unethically indexes websites and/or comes up with a way to pretend to be a "real user" with a "real web browser" on a "real device".. which is VASTLY slower, by the way, by the pure definition of the task itself. Humans ain't that fast. If nothing else it's a huge time and energy sink.

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      • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

        .. or any company that, I guess, unethically indexes websites and/or comes up with a way to pretend to be a "real user" with a "real web browser" on a "real device".. which is VASTLY slower, by the way, by the pure definition of the task itself. Humans ain't that fast. If nothing else it's a huge time and energy sink.

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        @codinghorror that's every LLM vendor though, they all do it

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        • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

          @codinghorror that's every LLM vendor though, they all do it

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          @aburka who paywalls the paywall?

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          • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

            @aburka who paywalls the paywall?

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            @codinghorror cloudflare

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            • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

              @codinghorror cloudflare

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              @aburka well.. true. True. But.. sustainable? I dunno. "This one thing in charge of ALL THE OTHER THINGS EVER" just makes me nervous on principle

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              • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                @aburka well.. true. True. But.. sustainable? I dunno. "This one thing in charge of ALL THE OTHER THINGS EVER" just makes me nervous on principle

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                @codinghorror very close to nothing happening in modern society is sustainable

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                • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                  @codinghorror very close to nothing happening in modern society is sustainable

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                  @aburka also true https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116055371474843099

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                  • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                    .. or any company that, I guess, unethically indexes websites and/or comes up with a way to pretend to be a "real user" with a "real web browser" on a "real device".. which is VASTLY slower, by the way, by the pure definition of the task itself. Humans ain't that fast. If nothing else it's a huge time and energy sink.

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                    @codinghorror playwright driving a real browser in a VM never hurt anybody!

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                    • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                      I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that." A huge advantage for Google / Gemini.

                      kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @codinghorror it probably means your type of user account or type of question has been downgraded to run off of older or more power efficient but slower hardware

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                      • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                        @codinghorror it probably means your type of user account or type of question has been downgraded to run off of older or more power efficient but slower hardware

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                        @codinghorror (openAI is running out of money)

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                        • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                          @codinghorror (openAI is running out of money)

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                          @Kierkegaanks they definitely aren't, not any time soon. But the infinite paywalling of every single site on the internet is going to be .. quite painful.. for all of us.

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