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  3. I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that."

I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that."

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  • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

    I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that." A huge advantage for Google / Gemini.

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    .. or any company that, I guess, unethically indexes websites and/or comes up with a way to pretend to be a "real user" with a "real web browser" on a "real device".. which is VASTLY slower, by the way, by the pure definition of the task itself. Humans ain't that fast. If nothing else it's a huge time and energy sink.

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    • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

      .. or any company that, I guess, unethically indexes websites and/or comes up with a way to pretend to be a "real user" with a "real web browser" on a "real device".. which is VASTLY slower, by the way, by the pure definition of the task itself. Humans ain't that fast. If nothing else it's a huge time and energy sink.

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      @codinghorror that's every LLM vendor though, they all do it

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      • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

        @codinghorror that's every LLM vendor though, they all do it

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        @aburka who paywalls the paywall?

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        • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

          @aburka who paywalls the paywall?

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          @codinghorror cloudflare

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          • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

            @codinghorror cloudflare

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            @aburka well.. true. True. But.. sustainable? I dunno. "This one thing in charge of ALL THE OTHER THINGS EVER" just makes me nervous on principle

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            • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

              @aburka well.. true. True. But.. sustainable? I dunno. "This one thing in charge of ALL THE OTHER THINGS EVER" just makes me nervous on principle

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              @codinghorror very close to nothing happening in modern society is sustainable

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              • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                @codinghorror very close to nothing happening in modern society is sustainable

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                @aburka also true https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116055371474843099

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                • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                  .. or any company that, I guess, unethically indexes websites and/or comes up with a way to pretend to be a "real user" with a "real web browser" on a "real device".. which is VASTLY slower, by the way, by the pure definition of the task itself. Humans ain't that fast. If nothing else it's a huge time and energy sink.

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                  @codinghorror playwright driving a real browser in a VM never hurt anybody!

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                  • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                    I find that ChatGPT over the last ~n months is burning a lot more "think time" on "gee, people don't like my user agent and have actively banned me from looking at their website, let me spend ~x time trying to work around that." A huge advantage for Google / Gemini.

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                    @codinghorror it probably means your type of user account or type of question has been downgraded to run off of older or more power efficient but slower hardware

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                    • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                      @codinghorror it probably means your type of user account or type of question has been downgraded to run off of older or more power efficient but slower hardware

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                      @codinghorror (openAI is running out of money)

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                      • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                        @codinghorror (openAI is running out of money)

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                        @Kierkegaanks they definitely aren't, not any time soon. But the infinite paywalling of every single site on the internet is going to be .. quite painful.. for all of us.

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