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The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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    @tante they’ve moved on from building the Torment Nexus to speed-running an old Asimov story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feeling_of_Power

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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      @tante how many tokens do you really need when they are practically free and you have some time to kill? they are already losing billions, the toxic combo of bill, sam, and elon has effectively killed any hopes of acting in good will or good faith with these guys. There are alternatives, i think it is going to take small biz a few years but viable alternatives will crop up that will alter opportunity cost, cut out the middleman #frank is dead #fair use LV

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      • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @tante but who is going to buy it when everyone's broke?

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        #27

        @lritter @tante I think the answer to this question may put you in despair.

        But don't fret; even good ol' Marie Antoinette already had an answer for that.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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          #28

          @tante They're already halfway done in some places. Some folks can't read, write, or do basic arithmetics without tool support anymore. Let alone summarize, argue, or conceptualize.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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            #29

            @tante

            People don't recognize how insidious things like those Roku "chill coffee shop" muzak channels are, as part of the whole deal to make minds mushy.

            People have absolutely been enshittified along the way. The technology is proving that.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

              The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

              It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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              #30

              @tante Click click...

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                #31

                @tante Yup. The whole skit seems to be attempting to bring the expected level of human ability DOWN, so they could make money.

                Fucking crazy… 🤦‍♂️

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                  luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                  #32

                  @tante He wanted to say "futility", then corrected.

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                  • ftranschel@norden.socialF ftranschel@norden.social

                    @lritter @tante I think the answer to this question may put you in despair.

                    But don't fret; even good ol' Marie Antoinette already had an answer for that.

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                    #33

                    @ftranschel @lritter @tante despair aside (despair may be a luxury when compared to survival), I think you hit it on the head. Deskill to rent back skill but no skill means no money to buy back.

                    It’s like selling a home while you’re sleeping in it.

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                      spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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                      #34

                      @tante

                      The love of money is the root of insanity.

                      This is exhibit A.

                      #AI #Insanity #Money

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                        @Petesmom @tante Your island idea is too generous. I'd be happy to see someone drag them out of their mansions and beat them to death in the streets.

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                          @tante

                          Making money out of something that now is freely available and is stolen by them...
                          knowledge.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                            @tante Rick Beato - of all people - made me much more optimistic this morning when he pointed out that far from "owning" the LLMs, all the tech bro companies will go the way of the big expensive music studios when everyone ends up doing it themselves on their own laptop. Excellent point well made, I think...

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                            • strayhorse@c.imS strayhorse@c.im

                              @patrick_h_lauke @tante Interesting vid posted yesterday by Rick Beato https://youtu.be/YTLnnoZPALI?si=9DOCmiCwURXovAR6

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                              @strayhorse @patrick_h_lauke @tante Beato. Interesting guy.

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                #39

                                @tante The ones controlling the power want to ensure that those beneath them are uneducated and non critical thinkers. We are not progressing we are in fact going backwards.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                  samiamsam@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @tante

                                  techbroligarchs really are fucking idiots

                                  i have no fucking idea way anyone listens to any of them

                                  *head desk*

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                                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                    #41

                                    @tante A) he makes it sound like the instant skill download from The Matrix

                                    B) Would you fly a helicopter if the knowledge pack was assembled by existing AI models? Would a model 5 years out get to six-sigma?

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                                    • mossman@social.vivaldi.netM mossman@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @tante Rick Beato - of all people - made me much more optimistic this morning when he pointed out that far from "owning" the LLMs, all the tech bro companies will go the way of the big expensive music studios when everyone ends up doing it themselves on their own laptop. Excellent point well made, I think...

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                                      #42

                                      @mossman yeah I didn't find his argument very convincing tbh

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                        #43

                                        @tante How quickly the supposed nonprofit mission of OpenAI has been forgotten in favor of "metered intelligence for sale."

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                                          #44

                                          @Quasit @tante

                                          Do not fucking give them ideas!

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