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So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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  • inspired@hachyderm.ioI inspired@hachyderm.io

    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Yes there are other near-term factors that also affected the timing. I guess my point could be better summed up as: "Why strike Iran?" Mostly the reasons you cite. "Why now?" All sorts of unrelated reasons completely unrelated to the situation vis-a-vis the US and Iran.

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    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Also, I doubt the goal is truly regime change in Iran. Similar to Venezuela where they just took out the very top. They would be happy to see the whole regime fall, sure, but for the cost they are willing to settle for taking out the leader to accomplish many of the near-term goals I point to plus hope that the remaining leaders will be cowed even if they are still diametrically opposed to the US.

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    • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

      So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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      @michelestrider Wag the dog bad

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      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

        So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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        @michelestrider "Wag the Dog" was not an instruction manual.

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        • inspired@hachyderm.ioI inspired@hachyderm.io

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Also, I doubt the goal is truly regime change in Iran. Similar to Venezuela where they just took out the very top. They would be happy to see the whole regime fall, sure, but for the cost they are willing to settle for taking out the leader to accomplish many of the near-term goals I point to plus hope that the remaining leaders will be cowed even if they are still diametrically opposed to the US.

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          @inspired @michelestrider

          Power vacuums are never exactly a smart idea. It tends to lead to massive political instability.

          The power balance in the areas filled with rivals and a disruption to that balance of power is going to have downstream effects well outside of Iran

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          • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

            @michelestrider This war is Operation Epstein Shield.

            #OperationEpsteinShield

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            @mason @michelestrider Indeed.

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            • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

              So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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              @michelestrider No, the war is the precursor to "you never have to vote again"...

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              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                @inspired @michelestrider

                Power vacuums are never exactly a smart idea. It tends to lead to massive political instability.

                The power balance in the areas filled with rivals and a disruption to that balance of power is going to have downstream effects well outside of Iran

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                @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Oh yeah, it's bad. I don't pretend to know exactly how bad but I think it is pretty clear most of the people saying "don't attack Iran" weren't doing it because they want the current government in place. It is because the sort of consequences you are pointing to are likely far worse. Having said that, no matter how unlikely, I hope we turn out to be wrong. The Iranian people have suffered so much.

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                • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                  So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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                  @michelestrider @klausfiend Yes, they've driven every stupid "look over there!" thing that DJT has done for the last 13 months. Epstein's killswitch (Maxwell) didn't work out and dude was whacked in jail. Powerful people with more money than God are the cause of most of this planet's ills.

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                  • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                    So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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                    @michelestrider They got renamed to the Trump Epstein files.

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                    • inspired@hachyderm.ioI inspired@hachyderm.io

                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Oh yeah, it's bad. I don't pretend to know exactly how bad but I think it is pretty clear most of the people saying "don't attack Iran" weren't doing it because they want the current government in place. It is because the sort of consequences you are pointing to are likely far worse. Having said that, no matter how unlikely, I hope we turn out to be wrong. The Iranian people have suffered so much.

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                      @inspired @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Bibi also knows how to make Trump dance. And Israel needs another forever war to keep him out of jail.

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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        @inspired @GhostOnTheHalfShell @michelestrider Bibi also knows how to make Trump dance. And Israel needs another forever war to keep him out of jail.

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                        @JessTheUnstill @inspired @michelestrider

                        Given what we now know about certain now on alive individuals, and some very alive dictators, I won’t mention Russia by name, they do seem to have procured a great deal of material on the recreational activity of a great many political and business figures.

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                        • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                          So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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                          @michelestrider they were the real ”imminent threat”

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                          • deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffeeD deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffee

                            @michelestrider No, the war is the precursor to "you never have to vote again"...

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                            @deadinside @michelestrider

                            No reason it can't be both

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                            • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                              So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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                              @michelestrider
                              Hey. It's the ☮️ peace potus !

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                              • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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                                @michelestrider now, that it seems to be obvious that the DOJ was hiding documents naming Trump and a victim which accused him, and that the DOJ or others did investigate this and their were interviews, I wonder why not unredacting it when Trump has nothing to hide… I just wonder.
                                But it seems it must be really really bad for Trump, if he attacks Iran to disturb the public from this.

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                                • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                                  @michelestrider We now know they contain several accounts of him raping underage girls and at least one of these accounts are highly credible and was removed from the files. The hunt is on for it.

                                  But at this point I'm pretty sure he doesn't even give a shit because he knows nobody else does and that nobody's going to stop him in anything he does. Everyone has been bought or brought low.

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                                  @crazyeddie @michelestrider NO.
                                  So far there is no evidence that he raped an underage girl. There is an accusation he did, but innocent until proven guilty.
                                  Even for him.
                                  Or my English is too bad and I dont understand what you say…
                                  Politicians love to say: If you have nothing to hide…
                                  Well then, DJT, if you have nothing to hide…
                                  I would expect if it became public he did, his approval rates would rise, at least in the MAGA area.

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                                    @LukefromDC @michelestrider the broom is called MAGA and they still support him hugely.
                                    Even though he contradicts everything he said and he was elected for.

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                                    • mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM mrundkvist@archaeo.social

                                      @michelestrider
                                      We knew that in 2015. "You can grab her by the" etc

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                                      @mrundkvist @michelestrider “Her” was an adult and I guess not meant for kids

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                                      • michelestrider@mastodon.socialM michelestrider@mastodon.social

                                        So, the Epstein files are "start a war with Iran" bad

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                                        @michelestrider I strongly believe that he thinks, that now, eventually, he deserves the Nobel Peace Price, bombing Iran.
                                        Reality Distortion Field

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                                        • okuna@social.tchncs.deO okuna@social.tchncs.de

                                          @crazyeddie @michelestrider NO.
                                          So far there is no evidence that he raped an underage girl. There is an accusation he did, but innocent until proven guilty.
                                          Even for him.
                                          Or my English is too bad and I dont understand what you say…
                                          Politicians love to say: If you have nothing to hide…
                                          Well then, DJT, if you have nothing to hide…
                                          I would expect if it became public he did, his approval rates would rise, at least in the MAGA area.

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                                          @Okuna @michelestrider I find it odd that you'd say there's no evidence and then point out part of that evidence in the next sentence, but whatever.

                                          I stand corrected I guess?

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