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  • crow@privacysafe.socialC crow@privacysafe.social

    @randahl weird to imagine anyone wouldn’t instantly recognize this as #AIslop. There’s a disconnect between the mouth movements and the voice.

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    @Crow @randahl Yes, but this isn't just an AI problem. I've been working in sound for picture since way before AI joined the party and there has been a marked slide in the acceptance levels for lip sync in video editing software and common workflows. I can't even relax when I watch TV if I'm looking at the mouths. And so many Netflix viewers watch dubbed versions of foreign shows without even noticing it wasn't filmed in English. The dubbing has been happening since, oh I doubt the Jazz Singer was dubbed into foreign languages, but not long after that, and it's one of the many examples of technology making things worse in our business. We used to edit "deep fakes" with razor blades and open reel tape and I swear we did it better.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

      Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

      2/2

      janeggers@hessen.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @randahl The multi-detector "Search Whisperer" flags screenshots as likely made with Flux (which actually does not offer video generation). A commercial detector also fires. Googles Backstory tool detects traces of SynthID which means that this be AI-generated keyframes stitched together with a video generator. None of this is proof that it is truly AI, as other detectors fail to detect foul play.

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      • janeggers@hessen.socialJ janeggers@hessen.social

        @randahl The multi-detector "Search Whisperer" flags screenshots as likely made with Flux (which actually does not offer video generation). A commercial detector also fires. Googles Backstory tool detects traces of SynthID which means that this be AI-generated keyframes stitched together with a video generator. None of this is proof that it is truly AI, as other detectors fail to detect foul play.

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        @randahl The most curious find by Google's Backstory tool was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCyJPc928po - a Vietnamese clone of the video with an overvoice.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          I need your help.

          The US midterm elections are under attack. On YouTube, I constantly encounter American AI generated political commentary channels that are picking up followers, and I am convinced the objective is to use these channels to disinform the public in the fall.

          Please help by reporting this video as misinformation:
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P0EwPwF7jw

          If you are not sure this is AI, notice the way it repeats the same few hand gesture multiple times throughout the video.

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          #disinformation

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          @randahl disinformation. *

          Google is aligned with the Trump administration, as far as I know.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

            Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

            2/2

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            @randahl
            The lighting and shadows in the background (apparently by the sun through the window) is the same in multiple videos.

            But, they could claim that the background is a green screen.

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            • jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ jorgecandeias@mastodon.social

              @randahl Are you sure Youtube isn't in on it?

              'Cause I'm absolutely not.

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              @jorgecandeias I understand your scepticism, and I do not pretend to know all of YouTube's motives, but I do appreciate that YouTube have taken down several of the accounts I have reported. That is a good sign.

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              • cwicseolfor@zeroes.caC cwicseolfor@zeroes.ca

                @randahl #alt4you Two stills of what looks like a brunette woman in a pink and white room, speaking with raised eyebrows and a hand up in a pincer gesture. However, the two photographs are totally identical to the pixel except around her lower face, chin, and mouth. Neither her forehead, hand, hair, or shoulders have moved at all. It is clearly generated imagery.

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                @cwicseolfor Thank you. Added.

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                • nerb@techhub.socialN nerb@techhub.social

                  @randahl

                  I have hearing issues so I tend to watch lips to help.
                  That does not look right, the mouth movements while mostly correct do not look right. The C for instance in C-Span. Listening to that would tire me.

                  Almost as annoying to look at as sound that is slightly out of sync.

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                  @nerb I know exactly what you mean. And hopefully this also helps many people realise this is fake.

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                  • janeggers@hessen.socialJ janeggers@hessen.social

                    @randahl The multi-detector "Search Whisperer" flags screenshots as likely made with Flux (which actually does not offer video generation). A commercial detector also fires. Googles Backstory tool detects traces of SynthID which means that this be AI-generated keyframes stitched together with a video generator. None of this is proof that it is truly AI, as other detectors fail to detect foul play.

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                    @janeggers very interesting. What I really want is a way to find a long list of these AI videos, so I can make a real commentary video drawing attention to the problem.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      @janeggers very interesting. What I really want is a way to find a long list of these AI videos, so I can make a real commentary video drawing attention to the problem.

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                      @randahl You might want to visit the r/isthisAI subreddit to enlist help. 😉

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                      • janeggers@hessen.socialJ janeggers@hessen.social

                        @randahl You might want to visit the r/isthisAI subreddit to enlist help. 😉

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                        #29

                        @randahl indicator.media and 404media.co might be interested in this.

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

                          Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

                          2/2

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                          @randahl also that ring light should be in use, between the camera and the subject 🤨

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