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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    I need your help.

    The US midterm elections are under attack. On YouTube, I constantly encounter American AI generated political commentary channels that are picking up followers, and I am convinced the objective is to use these channels to disinform the public in the fall.

    Please help by reporting this video as misinformation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P0EwPwF7jw

    If you are not sure this is AI, notice the way it repeats the same few hand gesture multiple times throughout the video.

    1/2

    #disinformation

    steeph@mastodon.greenS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #12

    @randahl And her hair is the same in some of the other video's I checked. Which is impossible for that kind of hair over time.

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    • gsymon@mstdn.socialG gsymon@mstdn.social

      @randahl

      Last few days there's a whole new style of quasi-identical Russian/Far-right bots here on Mastodon. This has been going on for ~1year, but this latest attack is quite intense. If you follow #EU / #Ukraine tags, you'll see them.

      Clues =
      • meaningless mixed letter name
      • 0 to a few followers
      • Lots of posts in a short time
      • Many posts beginning / ending with ellipses (threads)
      • Often posts are identical to those of other bots/accounts
      • Seeing a lot in French language

      jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @gsymon just mention the posts in question with the NAFO or NAFOTakedown hashtags. The fellas will be on it ASAP and trying to find the admins/who owns the domain/server to put an end to the russian propaganda.

      You're seeing a lot in French because the Municipal Elections were last weekend and this weekend, if I'm not mistaken. Putin's buddies need "mairies" now, before trying to reach higher government places.
      @randahl

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      • doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.seD doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.se

        @randahl Yes and her teeth keep change in shape as well

        teotwaki@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @doktorzjivago @randahl What about her disappearing lips every other plosive?

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        • crow@privacysafe.socialC crow@privacysafe.social

          @randahl weird to imagine anyone wouldn’t instantly recognize this as #AIslop. There’s a disconnect between the mouth movements and the voice.

          randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #15

          @Crow I often see thousands of comments on these channels where viewers clearly demonstrate they think everything is legit.

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          • doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.seD doktorzjivago@mastodonsweden.se

            @randahl Yes and her teeth keep change in shape as well

            hakona@im.alstadheim.noH This user is from outside of this forum
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            @doktorzjivago Yes! Clearly visible in the two stills in the top of this thread. *weird* @randahl

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

              Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

              2/2

              nerb@techhub.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              @randahl

              I have hearing issues so I tend to watch lips to help.
              That does not look right, the mouth movements while mostly correct do not look right. The C for instance in C-Span. Listening to that would tire me.

              Almost as annoying to look at as sound that is slightly out of sync.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                I need your help.

                The US midterm elections are under attack. On YouTube, I constantly encounter American AI generated political commentary channels that are picking up followers, and I am convinced the objective is to use these channels to disinform the public in the fall.

                Please help by reporting this video as misinformation:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P0EwPwF7jw

                If you are not sure this is AI, notice the way it repeats the same few hand gesture multiple times throughout the video.

                1/2

                #disinformation

                cwicseolfor@zeroes.caC This user is from outside of this forum
                cwicseolfor@zeroes.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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                #18

                @randahl #alt4you Two stills of what looks like a brunette woman in a pink and white room, speaking with raised eyebrows and a hand up in a pincer gesture. However, the two photographs are totally identical to the pixel except around her lower face, chin, and mouth. Neither her forehead, hand, hair, or shoulders have moved at all. It is clearly generated imagery.

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                • crow@privacysafe.socialC crow@privacysafe.social

                  @randahl weird to imagine anyone wouldn’t instantly recognize this as #AIslop. There’s a disconnect between the mouth movements and the voice.

                  kingtor@frontrange.coK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Crow @randahl Yes, but this isn't just an AI problem. I've been working in sound for picture since way before AI joined the party and there has been a marked slide in the acceptance levels for lip sync in video editing software and common workflows. I can't even relax when I watch TV if I'm looking at the mouths. And so many Netflix viewers watch dubbed versions of foreign shows without even noticing it wasn't filmed in English. The dubbing has been happening since, oh I doubt the Jazz Singer was dubbed into foreign languages, but not long after that, and it's one of the many examples of technology making things worse in our business. We used to edit "deep fakes" with razor blades and open reel tape and I swear we did it better.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

                    Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

                    2/2

                    janeggers@hessen.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @randahl The multi-detector "Search Whisperer" flags screenshots as likely made with Flux (which actually does not offer video generation). A commercial detector also fires. Googles Backstory tool detects traces of SynthID which means that this be AI-generated keyframes stitched together with a video generator. None of this is proof that it is truly AI, as other detectors fail to detect foul play.

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                    • janeggers@hessen.socialJ janeggers@hessen.social

                      @randahl The multi-detector "Search Whisperer" flags screenshots as likely made with Flux (which actually does not offer video generation). A commercial detector also fires. Googles Backstory tool detects traces of SynthID which means that this be AI-generated keyframes stitched together with a video generator. None of this is proof that it is truly AI, as other detectors fail to detect foul play.

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                      #21

                      @randahl The most curious find by Google's Backstory tool was this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCyJPc928po - a Vietnamese clone of the video with an overvoice.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        I need your help.

                        The US midterm elections are under attack. On YouTube, I constantly encounter American AI generated political commentary channels that are picking up followers, and I am convinced the objective is to use these channels to disinform the public in the fall.

                        Please help by reporting this video as misinformation:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P0EwPwF7jw

                        If you are not sure this is AI, notice the way it repeats the same few hand gesture multiple times throughout the video.

                        1/2

                        #disinformation

                        everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #22

                        @randahl disinformation. *

                        Google is aligned with the Trump administration, as far as I know.

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

                          Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

                          2/2

                          anchr@snabelen.noA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @randahl
                          The lighting and shadows in the background (apparently by the sun through the window) is the same in multiple videos.

                          But, they could claim that the background is a green screen.

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                          • jorgecandeias@mastodon.socialJ jorgecandeias@mastodon.social

                            @randahl Are you sure Youtube isn't in on it?

                            'Cause I'm absolutely not.

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                            #24

                            @jorgecandeias I understand your scepticism, and I do not pretend to know all of YouTube's motives, but I do appreciate that YouTube have taken down several of the accounts I have reported. That is a good sign.

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                            • cwicseolfor@zeroes.caC cwicseolfor@zeroes.ca

                              @randahl #alt4you Two stills of what looks like a brunette woman in a pink and white room, speaking with raised eyebrows and a hand up in a pincer gesture. However, the two photographs are totally identical to the pixel except around her lower face, chin, and mouth. Neither her forehead, hand, hair, or shoulders have moved at all. It is clearly generated imagery.

                              randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #25

                              @cwicseolfor Thank you. Added.

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                              • nerb@techhub.socialN nerb@techhub.social

                                @randahl

                                I have hearing issues so I tend to watch lips to help.
                                That does not look right, the mouth movements while mostly correct do not look right. The C for instance in C-Span. Listening to that would tire me.

                                Almost as annoying to look at as sound that is slightly out of sync.

                                randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #26

                                @nerb I know exactly what you mean. And hopefully this also helps many people realise this is fake.

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                                • janeggers@hessen.socialJ janeggers@hessen.social

                                  @randahl The multi-detector "Search Whisperer" flags screenshots as likely made with Flux (which actually does not offer video generation). A commercial detector also fires. Googles Backstory tool detects traces of SynthID which means that this be AI-generated keyframes stitched together with a video generator. None of this is proof that it is truly AI, as other detectors fail to detect foul play.

                                  randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @janeggers very interesting. What I really want is a way to find a long list of these AI videos, so I can make a real commentary video drawing attention to the problem.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    @janeggers very interesting. What I really want is a way to find a long list of these AI videos, so I can make a real commentary video drawing attention to the problem.

                                    janeggers@hessen.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @randahl You might want to visit the r/isthisAI subreddit to enlist help. 😉

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                                    • janeggers@hessen.socialJ janeggers@hessen.social

                                      @randahl You might want to visit the r/isthisAI subreddit to enlist help. 😉

                                      janeggers@hessen.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @randahl indicator.media and 404media.co might be interested in this.

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        For documentation, I am attaching a short clip where the hand gesture is shown.

                                        Apart from this AI bot looking unnatural, the people behind this clearly also overlook the fact, that human political commentators normally do not produce their content from a creative home studio filled with crayons, colourful paper and beige pottery.

                                        2/2

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                                        @randahl also that ring light should be in use, between the camera and the subject 🤨

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