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  • nlupo@amikejo.xyzN nlupo@amikejo.xyz

    @oli @thisismissem Does Gotosocial subscription use this or it's something different?

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    @nlupo @thisismissem It's something different (csvs, json, and flatfiles) but it could use this. It would just be another (much more nuanced) format.

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    • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

      @julian You'll definitely want a FederationPolicies model, beyond just a "block these domains" list.

      For instance, coming in the future to FIRES is a way to distribute Hashtags that may contain harmful content, such that you could choose to filter those out.

      Or, maybe you want to filter those in (I see you NodeBB and how you get content federated in!)

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      @thisismissem@hachyderm.io hashtag filtering would be handy. I'm interested in seeing how that will shape up. Apologies for missing the T&S call yesterday.

      I noted in my third-party blocklist implementation that IFTAS DNI and AUD lists classify entries as silence or suspend. I am assuming that these are expanded in FIRES with a couple additional items?

      I may be mis-remembering from our talk a couple months back <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=a2a7da0aec4" title="πŸ˜„" />

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      • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

        @thisismissem@hachyderm.io hashtag filtering would be handy. I'm interested in seeing how that will shape up. Apologies for missing the T&S call yesterday.

        I noted in my third-party blocklist implementation that IFTAS DNI and AUD lists classify entries as silence or suspend. I am assuming that these are expanded in FIRES with a couple additional items?

        I may be mis-remembering from our talk a couple months back <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://activitypub.space/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=a2a7da0aec4" title="πŸ˜„" />

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        @julian yeah, we don't currently support a "silence" because no one really knows what that means so we're pushing towards more granular filters

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        • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

          @julian yeah, we don't currently support a "silence" because no one really knows what that means so we're pushing towards more granular filters

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          @thisismissem@hachyderm.io have you settled on a list I can code against? iirc we had discussed suspend, filter, and allow. Not sure if the terms have changed since.

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          • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

            @thisismissem@hachyderm.io have you settled on a list I can code against? iirc we had discussed suspend, filter, and allow. Not sure if the terms have changed since.

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            @julian waiting for implementations to give me feedback

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            • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

              @thisismissem@hachyderm.io have you settled on a list I can code against? iirc we had discussed suspend, filter, and allow. Not sure if the terms have changed since.

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              @julian we have four policies: Accept, Filter, Reject, Drop

              We have N filters: https://fires.fedimod.org/concepts/filters.html

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              • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                @julian waiting for implementations to give me feedback

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                @thisismissem@hachyderm.io any specific place you want feedback (officially)?

                I have no desire for anything more than those 3.

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                • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                  @thisismissem@hachyderm.io any specific place you want feedback (officially)?

                  I have no desire for anything more than those 3.

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                  @julian so suspend is either reject or drop as a recommendation; reject says you should tell the sending server "I reject this activity", drop is "I acknowledge this activity" but you quietly send it to /dev/null

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                  • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                    @julian so suspend is either reject or drop as a recommendation; reject says you should tell the sending server "I reject this activity", drop is "I acknowledge this activity" but you quietly send it to /dev/null

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                    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io great, I'm good to implement those. I'll have to take a closer look at the FIRES documentation next week πŸ™‚

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                    • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                      @thisismissem@hachyderm.io great, I'm good to implement those. I'll have to take a closer look at the FIRES documentation next week πŸ™‚

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                      @julian I was informed of one gap in the documentation but the API is very follow your nose

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                      • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

                        @julian I was informed of one gap in the documentation but the API is very follow your nose

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                        @thisismissem@hachyderm.io hah okay, I'll take notes on omissions I find as well.

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                        • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                          @thisismissem@hachyderm.io hah okay, I'll take notes on omissions I find as well.

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                          @julian writing all the docs takes a huge amount of time πŸ˜…

                          I also don't think I've structured them right yet

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