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  3. I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

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  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

    I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

    burnoutqueen@todon.nlB maryaustinbooks@mstdn.socialM fsinn@mas.toF asbestos@pnw.zoneA randamumaki@mstdn.socialR 7 Replies Last reply
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    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

      RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

      I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

      burnoutqueen@todon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @inthehands they're trying to do a Reichstag fire but everyone hates the government so it isn't working.

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      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

        RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

        I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

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        @inthehands
        I wonder whether any journalists hyperventilating about the event will pursue that story?

        I mean, I'd be pretty pissed off if somebody put me through that to try to justify a big gaudy ballroom, but that's me.

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        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

          RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

          I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

          fsinn@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @inthehands Agreed.

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            @inthehands Agreed.

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            @fsinn @inthehands Also, “build the ballroom: it’ll save Donald Trump’s life” might not be the slam-dunk argument with Democrats they somehow imagine it to be. 🧐🙄

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            • tantramar@zeroes.caT tantramar@zeroes.ca

              @fsinn @inthehands Also, “build the ballroom: it’ll save Donald Trump’s life” might not be the slam-dunk argument with Democrats they somehow imagine it to be. 🧐🙄

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              @tantramar @fsinn @inthehands

              Why should he have protections that we refuse to give our school children

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                @tantramar @fsinn @inthehands

                Why should he have protections that we refuse to give our school children

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                @darwinwoodka @tantramar @fsinn @inthehands Protect the guns! /s

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                • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                  RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

                  I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

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                  @inthehands
                  I noticed an abundance of pro trump post at various sites

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                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                    RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

                    I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

                    randamumaki@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @inthehands Kyle Gass said nothing wrong on stage in 2024.

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                    • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                      RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

                      I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

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                      @inthehands

                      the ballroom is silo #1

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                      • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                        RE: https://mstdn.social/@MaryAustinBooks/116471283173674476

                        I’m not giving any details of the WHCD shooting my attention, but •this• — the coordination of messaging, the degree of synchronization, the speed of it — is a story worth pursuing.

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                        To be clear: with these people I always look to opportunism before conspiracy to explain their actions — but when you have this kind of rapidly convergent manufactured consensus within a political group, the distinction between those two becomes blurry.

                        Looking for malicious premeditation is probably just pursuing a red herring. I’m more interested in how they form their response, what they’re doing to try to shape public conversation, social media, the press.

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                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                          To be clear: with these people I always look to opportunism before conspiracy to explain their actions — but when you have this kind of rapidly convergent manufactured consensus within a political group, the distinction between those two becomes blurry.

                          Looking for malicious premeditation is probably just pursuing a red herring. I’m more interested in how they form their response, what they’re doing to try to shape public conversation, social media, the press.

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                          A lot of people in my TL are speculating that the shooting was staged, and…I doubt that, but surely the right-wing •reaction• was. That’s why I say the story of the OP deserves attention.

                          People are saying “doing a Reichstag,” and…there’s a long-running debate, but historical consensus leans pretty strongly toward the Reichstag fire itself being a case of fascist opportunism and not fascist premeditation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire#Dispute_about_Van_der_Lubbe's_role

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                            A lot of people in my TL are speculating that the shooting was staged, and…I doubt that, but surely the right-wing •reaction• was. That’s why I say the story of the OP deserves attention.

                            People are saying “doing a Reichstag,” and…there’s a long-running debate, but historical consensus leans pretty strongly toward the Reichstag fire itself being a case of fascist opportunism and not fascist premeditation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire#Dispute_about_Van_der_Lubbe's_role

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                            @inthehands The various Republican officials are all in group chat so they can distribute an exact copy of the same message. I'm fairly sure this came out in discovery more than once, and most famously when they mistakenly invited a journalist to the warcrimes group chat. It's not surprising or illegal. But it does explain how they all come out with exactly the same words, at the same time.

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                              A lot of people in my TL are speculating that the shooting was staged, and…I doubt that, but surely the right-wing •reaction• was. That’s why I say the story of the OP deserves attention.

                              People are saying “doing a Reichstag,” and…there’s a long-running debate, but historical consensus leans pretty strongly toward the Reichstag fire itself being a case of fascist opportunism and not fascist premeditation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire#Dispute_about_Van_der_Lubbe's_role

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                              @inthehands
                              Yeah I dont actually buy it being a staged event in itself (at least, not without some genuine evidence and all I've seen is the vaguest of vibes).

                              The response, though...pretty hilariously coordinated.

                              Also, I feel like I'm losing my mind, but the WHCD has never been at the white house because it is a conflict of interest/looks bad? So if the ballroom was there...still wouldn't have had it there?

                              Entire point is it's distinct on this one night a year, yes?

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                              • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                A lot of people in my TL are speculating that the shooting was staged, and…I doubt that, but surely the right-wing •reaction• was. That’s why I say the story of the OP deserves attention.

                                People are saying “doing a Reichstag,” and…there’s a long-running debate, but historical consensus leans pretty strongly toward the Reichstag fire itself being a case of fascist opportunism and not fascist premeditation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire#Dispute_about_Van_der_Lubbe's_role

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                                Why go looking for some false flag conspiracy or whatever when we have this in plain sight:

                                - Tight, rapid comms coordination between a would-be authoritarian government and supposedly independent public figures

                                - That messaging control extending across supposedly independent branches of government; total collapse of checks and balances, replaced with government by PR strategy

                                - Mass consolidation of both news media and social media under the control of the billionaire backers of said authoritarians

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                                  @inthehands they're trying to do a Reichstag fire but everyone hates the government so it isn't working.

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                                  For a nation who has 100+ mass shootings per year, "Man runs into a hotel with guns, hits a bullet proof vest, and is arrested" just ain't something that's going to get that many normies to change their minds about how their pick up trucks now cost $100 to fuel.

                                  @burnoutqueen @inthehands

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                                  • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                    Why go looking for some false flag conspiracy or whatever when we have this in plain sight:

                                    - Tight, rapid comms coordination between a would-be authoritarian government and supposedly independent public figures

                                    - That messaging control extending across supposedly independent branches of government; total collapse of checks and balances, replaced with government by PR strategy

                                    - Mass consolidation of both news media and social media under the control of the billionaire backers of said authoritarians

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                                    Here’s a news story I’d click:

                                    An analysis of how the coordinated right-wing response to the WHCD shooting is a microcosm of the strategy behind the Epstein files coverup

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                                    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                      For a nation who has 100+ mass shootings per year, "Man runs into a hotel with guns, hits a bullet proof vest, and is arrested" just ain't something that's going to get that many normies to change their minds about how their pick up trucks now cost $100 to fuel.

                                      @burnoutqueen @inthehands

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                                      @JessTheUnstill @burnoutqueen @inthehands Also, and maybe this is just the Canadian in me spitballing here, but what about a White House Ballroom makes it less likely for "Man runs into ballroom with guns, hits a bullet proof vest, and is arrested" going to be a replacement for the headline?

                                      Like, if anything that seems more likely, because then everyone knows *where* the President is for any given event hosted there. Wouldn't even need to figure out if he was invited.

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                                      • at1st@mstdn.caA at1st@mstdn.ca

                                        @JessTheUnstill @burnoutqueen @inthehands Also, and maybe this is just the Canadian in me spitballing here, but what about a White House Ballroom makes it less likely for "Man runs into ballroom with guns, hits a bullet proof vest, and is arrested" going to be a replacement for the headline?

                                        Like, if anything that seems more likely, because then everyone knows *where* the President is for any given event hosted there. Wouldn't even need to figure out if he was invited.

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                                        @AT1ST @burnoutqueen @inthehands The White House already has tightly controlled entrances and exits with permanent physical barriers against people easily running through checkpoints, etc. It's like just because you happen to know where the Oval Office is, that doesn't mean squat since there's no conceivable way for someone to get there without being pinged by 4 snipers or tackled by guards or whatever.

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                                        • inthehands@hachyderm.ioI inthehands@hachyderm.io

                                          Here’s a news story I’d click:

                                          An analysis of how the coordinated right-wing response to the WHCD shooting is a microcosm of the strategy behind the Epstein files coverup

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                                          @inthehands best post of the day.

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