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@maikel thank youl. I am fascinated by this intersection between social and technical, and the ability to collaborate at scale in grassroots environments to make that be more seamless.
@smallcircles I think you and I have some common goals. I was doing this over Christmas, then stopped because I realised I didn't want to build one for just LGBTQ+ but any minorities (eg: AuDHD). I want any minority to be able to support their own while at the same time, share a "town square".
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1. Federated and decentralised tech.
2. Opt-in network-wide discovery without centralisation of an index (this is the hard one).
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@smallcircles I think you and I have some common goals. I was doing this over Christmas, then stopped because I realised I didn't want to build one for just LGBTQ+ but any minorities (eg: AuDHD). I want any minority to be able to support their own while at the same time, share a "town square".
Non-negotiables
1. Federated and decentralised tech.
2. Opt-in network-wide discovery without centralisation of an index (this is the hard one).
3. Protection in places where we're beheaded for existing (strong e2e is a must and sharing data like absolute location coordinates is a definite NO).@smallcircles first it was about LGBTQ+, then I started to think about autistics, adhd, neurodivergencies, then about BAME.
Most of it, mimics algorithms I have already in my head about minimising the cost of a UK Nat Rep survey (e.g.: the more rare a participant is, the more expensive it becomes in e.g: Cint) for a previous job.
But each layer has to be carefully thought to be the most respectful and inclusive possible.
(part of why I'm preparing for a psychology degree to get some specialisation into Social Psychology).
The goal is, a dating / support app (the fact it is both things is key) where you can find people ....
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@smallcircles first it was about LGBTQ+, then I started to think about autistics, adhd, neurodivergencies, then about BAME.
Most of it, mimics algorithms I have already in my head about minimising the cost of a UK Nat Rep survey (e.g.: the more rare a participant is, the more expensive it becomes in e.g: Cint) for a previous job.
But each layer has to be carefully thought to be the most respectful and inclusive possible.
(part of why I'm preparing for a psychology degree to get some specialisation into Social Psychology).
The goal is, a dating / support app (the fact it is both things is key) where you can find people ....
...like you, no matter how weird you consider yourself to either date or build a support network when you live in a place where that's absolutely necessary for survival.
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@maikel that is a great list of points. I won't boost, or you get more of what you don't want, but you might consider filing a fediverse idea..
fediverse-ideas
fediverse-ideas - Ideas for new applications and services on the Fediverse.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
Some of these can be mitigated by nurturing cultural habits.
> 6. The worst one: people use other names instead to call them so filters don't work.
This one in particular. Besides references to toxic people you see it too with folks saying Gaggle, GMAFIA, Farcebook, etc.
Often these names are used in someone's "activism package", but using them is imho more performative to an existing in-group than that they constructively appeal to others and persuade them to join the good cause.
I posted something related to this today. See CALM culture in..
The acronym also litterally means that our social media culture becomes calmer, and there's better separation to where there's activism, and where the natural talk of the town.
🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)
Whatever we think of #AI / #LLM mad hype cycle, we have to deal with its rushed and inhumane dumping of the technology into global human society. #CALMculture is a strategic approach to that allows activist voices to have the most impact in dealing with the dangers of disruptive technology introductions, and focuses beyond berating people and demanding sacrifice ("don't use, or else.."), to creating a process that helps win people over and work together on best outcomes and in direction of solutions. #CALM stands for Constructive activism-led movements, such as Social coding commons. Coding is social, and #SocialCoding the holistic approach to ensure that. Social coding commons evolves Social experience design or #SX, solution development for grassroots movements, supported by the #SocialWeb. In the thread below I copied a post to #Gleam's community with a suggestion to ponder about best outcomes from current and ongoing AI disruption, and deal with risks. https://discuss.coding.social/t/calm-culture-to-ensure-best-outcomes-to-ai-disruption/831
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@smallcircles @maikel I am especially annoyed by this practice of referring to companies and people you don't like by dysphemisms, as if saying their real name would summon them like Candyman. Thus "the orange site" instead of Hackernews, "the bird site" instead of Twitter, etc.
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@smallcircles @maikel I am especially annoyed by this practice of referring to companies and people you don't like by dysphemisms, as if saying their real name would summon them like Candyman. Thus "the orange site" instead of Hackernews, "the bird site" instead of Twitter, etc.
I suspect this might have had some utility on Twitter or other corporate media sites, where bot armies would search for a name so they could brigade anyone who disparaged their favorite site or person. But here it's just annoying, and, as you point out, plays hell with filters.@cholling agreed and I've seen an innumerable amount of toots requesting for this to stop from different people and nothing ever changing.
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@smallcircles Cozy neighborhood within a bustling city.
Aside from a few Mastodon instances (two topical and one location-based), I haven't yet explored the rest, e.g. Lemmy, PeerTube, etc. even though I'm aware of their presence, which makes the Fediverse feel bigger than a village.
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@smallcircles I'd probably say a city, but more wide than dense, and a bit like Morrowind's map if you have played it. In the beginning, all of it looks empty and locations become visible when you discover them. You'll find more and more people, interesting posts etc. Though if you have niche interests and those who share them (if they exist) haven't moved to the fediverse yet, you might still be talking to the void a lot.
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@smallcircles @_elena Local pub full of software devs
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@smallcircles Fedi feels like a permanently disrupted meeting in which everyone is shouting, trying to get everyone else to listen to Their Very Important Point
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@smallcircles Liberated zone.
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@smallcircles I'd probably say a city, but more wide than dense, and a bit like Morrowind's map if you have played it. In the beginning, all of it looks empty and locations become visible when you discover them. You'll find more and more people, interesting posts etc. Though if you have niche interests and those who share them (if they exist) haven't moved to the fediverse yet, you might still be talking to the void a lot.
@Carl_Gylling oh yes, did I play Morrowind. Love the comparison, thanks
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@smallcircles relatively quiet respite near the bathrooms at an overcrowded music festival when I can still hear the music from the stage but I'm not interested in the acts right now, and people are having semi private conversations around me that they've been wanting to have all day but waiting until they could hear each other, and the people chatting are here to see the same bands as me.
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@smallcircles relatively quiet respite near the bathrooms at an overcrowded music festival when I can still hear the music from the stage but I'm not interested in the acts right now, and people are having semi private conversations around me that they've been wanting to have all day but waiting until they could hear each other, and the people chatting are here to see the same bands as me.
@octarine_wiggle I like that description, thanks.
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@smallcircles Fedi feels like a permanently disrupted meeting in which everyone is shouting, trying to get everyone else to listen to Their Very Important Point
@draNgNon that sounds a bit like influencer-style social media then. Is it a cacophony in a good way, or not? Would a Google+ like Circles functionality, such as Bonfire are bringing to the fediverse, bring solace?
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@smallcircles @_elena Local pub full of software devs
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@smallcircles I experience it as a web of interconnections that span the globe, and across my many intersecting and diverting interests.
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@smallcircles "... mad scientist's urban planning experiment"
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@smallcircles “I thought we were an autonomous collective.”
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...like you, no matter how weird you consider yourself to either date or build a support network when you live in a place where that's absolutely necessary for survival.
@maikel this is a very cool and relevant direction that explores new social networking use cases and areas, and where reflecting deeply on the social side of the equation will probably pay good divident when it comes to implementing the supportive technical side.
I posted the other day about the social networking direction I am most interested about, which requires healthy ecosystem and inclusive commons based collaboration.
🫧 socialcoding.. (@smallcircles@social.coop)
@evan@cosocial.ca So the area where my plans go I call "Residential social networking", geo-fenced but inter-connected social networking circles that cover a city, town, or rural area, and which enable their residents to not only create content on the network, but the dynamic apps and services based on local needs that exist in the area. The intent of a residential social network is to engage people *offline* and in activities that support the local economy. Or rather strengthens the Circles of Sustainability in SX terminology: https://coding.social/blog/reimagine-social/#circles-of-sustainability And all this should be a relatively low-code affair, directly accessible already for a first-time dev. This requires having a mature open standards based healthy technology foundation and thriving ecosystem. I am a developer, though with rusty coding skills these days, and I might have started a fedi app design in 2018 or so. But this would not have led to the desired outcome, just throw one more app-centric software in the mix.
social.coop (social.coop)
SX considers your applied research area to be exploring the Personal social networking paradigm, which in a more general sense also facilitate the notion of what it means to be "working in commons" on things that are "commons based".
Trust and safety are major concerns, I gather. I am not sure what is the status today, but the Open Hospitality Network at one point was investigating an ActivityPub based platform similar to CouchSurfing, where these aspects were also of key importance. @mariha hosts this community.
