Today, the final negotiations on Chat Control 2.0 begin.

[kierkegaanks@beige.party]

@mullvadnet obviously we need to sell out a pillar of democracy to an american tech company headed by a tv has-been

[pzmyers@freethought.online]

@mullvadnet Wait, wait, wait. Ashton Kutcher, the airhead who defended rapist Danny Masterson, is now a Big Man behind internet sex abuse policies? We are so screwed in so many ways.

[hnapel@mastodon.social]

@mullvadnet

If Mila wants it, there's no escape

[budududuroiu@hachyderm.io]

@mullvadnet Europe needs a post-EU future

[jack@status.sexyferret.science]

@mullvadnet@mastodon.online didn't know you hated children good to know

[prometheuspetrosss@mas.to]

@mullvadnet #reticulum ....

[samueljohnson@mstdn.social]

@budududuroiu @mullvadnet 100% wrong. The EU is governed democratically and it can make course corrections as needed as long as it remains democratic. There is no need to replace the EU.

[scipoltech@mastodon.online]

@prometheuspetrosss @mullvadnet Reticulum is great, but let's not think we can technology our way out of policy failings every time or for everyone.. for a start, it's very easy to imagine a dystopian future where using any un-backdoored communication is either treated as presumptively suspicious or outright illegal.

[joblakely@mastodon.social]

@pzmyers @mullvadnet who was also major part of Diddy’s ‘rat pack’.
Melanie Hamlett’s has some great videos about how problematic he is.
https://youtu.be/-tQpJkAuFYg

He is a terrible human and should not even consider himself the right person for the job.

[budududuroiu@hachyderm.io]

@samueljohnson @mullvadnet Von Der Leyen was literally plucked out of a relatively obscure (at the time) defense minister job directly to arguably the most important job in Europe. How? Basically a backroom deal between Merkel and Macron.

The European Parliament (who is the only elected body lmao) doesn't even have the power to legislate.

Democratic my ass

[gimulnautti@mastodon.green]

@mullvadnet ChatControl 2.0 is another attempt at selling a magical mystery device that doesn’t and can’t exist.

It reads everything but doesn’t read anything, it stores everything but cannot be hacked. It doesn’t make mistakes, it knows everything.

In other circles things like these are called scams, but in tech politics they seem to be a dime a dozen.

[samueljohnson@mstdn.social]

@budududuroiu @mullvadnet Oh. Europeans don't have direct democracy because their democratically elected governments choose not to have one and you think it's a bad idea, got it.

You're wrong about the European Parliament. You'd know this if you understood how the Trilogue Process works in practice. And vDL's nomination required parliamentary approval. And parliament can fire her and the entire Commission.

Try being realistic.

[dekoftheyautja@social.vivaldi.net]

Narrator: *they didn't*

[prometheuspetrosss@mas.to]

@SciPolTech @mullvadnet True

[budududuroiu@hachyderm.io]

@samueljohnson @mullvadnet
Please, enlighten me about how The Trilogue works lmaooo. Even the most pro-EU policy nuts and outlets critique it as an abomination, a closed, informal negotiation that produces pre-agreed texts presented to the full Parliament for rubber-stamping.

My critique isn't about direct democracy, it's that Parliament is a rubber stamp. In normal parliamentary democracy, the legislature's primary function is to scrutinise executive power. What you get is a system where the formally democratic body (Parliament) has been procedurally marginalized by an informal workaround (Trilogue) that gives the most consequential institutional power (agenda setting) to a body unaccountable to it's constituents (the Commission).

Parliament can't fire HER, Parliament can force the whole Commission to resign by a vote of no confidence, which never happened btw because it triggers a political crisis with no clear resolution path.