So the "Bun being a vibe coded rewrite from Zig to Rust" is a different story than I think it's being sold as, from everything I can see.

[cwebber@social.coop]

@be Oops! Thx. Transposition!

[ridley@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber > I expect OSS to go the opposite direction: no human contribution allowed. Slop will be a nostalgic relic of 2025 & 2026.

Clearly someone whose professional opinions should be trusted. /s

[federicomena@mstdn.mx]

@cwebber I don't understand being the lead of a project, ostensibly understanding most of the code and its history, and slopping it up into an AI translation that you don't know at all. Yes, please turn my carefully handcrafted artifact into a pile of legacy code, at scale.

[ridley@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber Maybe I'll just save that comment for the next time I feel imposters' syndrome.

[dalias@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber LMAO at these Bun clowns. Props to Zig folks for shooting down their slop without even having to mention that it's slop.

[aburka@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber I agree, it actually has little to do with the Zig compiler's AI ban. Zig isn't saying "please don't write zig apps using AI"

[aburka@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber also holy crap that is an *extensive* porting guide

[algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club]

@cwebber

What can we make of this?

Silicon Valley White Men need therapy, badly, because they're out of touch with reality.

[defuneste@fosstodon.org]

I do not know much but giving infinite money to some folks seems to cause issues..

[aburka@hachyderm.io]

@be @cwebber not clear to me that changing the implementation language to rust will help with that though

[liberty@mathstodon.xyz]

@aburka @be @cwebber Unfortunately Rust hasn't come out nearly as strongly against LLMs used in contributions

[aburka@hachyderm.io]

@liberty @be @cwebber true, but they're not exactly notorious for moving quickly on language changes

[datarama@hachyderm.io]

@be @cwebber The entirety of the software world by now feels like one massive, foul-smelling heap of high-yield embarrassment.

[vathpela@infosec.exchange]

@federicomena @cwebber Except the "at scale" part is a bit of an illusion. It's a one-off with resources almost no other project can hope to have in the near term.

[reiddragon@fedi.catto.garden]

@cwebber It's people like this for whom the saying "don't get high off your own supply" was coined

[m3tti@functional.cafe]

@cwebber i would love to tell this guy in the twitter post. "I would rather read the opinion of an ai about that topic than reading your opinion about this topic".

EDIT: I'm pretty sure this entire bubble will pop and we just get something out of it like rad tools that also died slowly in the end. Reinforcment learning where people could "teach" a system what replies are good was allready testen by microslop looong ago. And it lead to a nazi anti feminism war loving shithead system. And now we are doing the same with more data

[blogdiva@mastodon.social]

@cwebber that Zig should stay the course and not let Bun nor Anthropic live rent-free in their minds nor repository ―because they will fail.

of course, they won't admit it, but given AIsloppers’ record of debugging, securing and documenting the shit they extrude with AI, someone will need what they originally wanted: Zig.

beside staying the course, they should lawyer up and have them review any licensing infringements.

[gbrlsnchs@hachyderm.io]

@cwebber Who would've guessed?! It's the same guy that wanted to hire developers to work extensive hours a day for the Bun project before LLMs were a thing. Of course that type of people will align with LLM replacing human labor.

[penguin42@mastodon.org.uk]

@federicomena @cwebber It depends if it keeps the structure that you understand and just does the legwork of the reworking for language; properly guided it may well do that.

[zkat@fedi.zkat.tech]

@cwebber that I'm now paranoid that by "doing research on competing implementations" he means "copycatting Kat's work" and now I'm glad that I've stopped working on orogene in public.