And that's how I ended up on mastodon
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
@elyn Python types:
"Everything's an object, right"
"OK, sure"
"So type, the type of types, is a subclass of object"
"OK, ..."
"And object, since it's a type, is an instance of type"
"... wat?"
(the amount of "lying to computers" involved in starting a Python interpreter is genuinely fun, for a given definition of "fun")
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@elyn Python types:
"Everything's an object, right"
"OK, sure"
"So type, the type of types, is a subclass of object"
"OK, ..."
"And object, since it's a type, is an instance of type"
"... wat?"
(the amount of "lying to computers" involved in starting a Python interpreter is genuinely fun, for a given definition of "fun")
@ancoghlan that's insane
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@ancoghlan that's insane
@ancoghlan I love that every last component that goes into making a computer do stuff is lying to every other component making the computer do stuff
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@ancoghlan that's insane
@elyn Yeah, I advise folks to steer clear of the core type machinery implementation unless they actually *want* to stretch their brains into weird shapes in order to understand it. Lots of "this isn't quite true yet, but it will be true before it needs to be true, just trust us on that, computer".
I also love the fact that it is all completely *un*necessary knowledge for folks that just want to use Python without worrying about the fiddly details of how it works.
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
@elyn damn Architeuthis Flux was not wrong
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
@elyn everyone has an origin story
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R relay@relay.mycrowd.ca shared this topic
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@michaelgemar @elyn @aburka it is also possible to have fungi and like cats, though of course you may "have" fungi in the same way you "have" cats, ie you are their staff, so the question of ownership is at the very least complex.... I need to go and lie down.
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
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@michaelgemar @elyn @aburka it is also possible to have fungi and like cats, though of course you may "have" fungi in the same way you "have" cats, ie you are their staff, so the question of ownership is at the very least complex.... I need to go and lie down.
@robparsons @michaelgemar @elyn I recommend clotrimazole
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There are dozens of us. Dozens!
But it's not a cult. Those weird people from beige.party, they're a cult but us? Nope, we're definitely not a cult.
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@elyn Welcome to Mastodon! Come for the toots, stay for the company
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
@elyn as you do lol
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@autisticplushy hey there
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
@elyn This tracks.
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@robparsons @michaelgemar @elyn I recommend clotrimazole
@aburka @robparsons @michaelgemar but that'll de-fun the guys
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@elyn Yeah, I advise folks to steer clear of the core type machinery implementation unless they actually *want* to stretch their brains into weird shapes in order to understand it. Lots of "this isn't quite true yet, but it will be true before it needs to be true, just trust us on that, computer".
I also love the fact that it is all completely *un*necessary knowledge for folks that just want to use Python without worrying about the fiddly details of how it works.
@ancoghlan I love fiddly details and non-euclidean neurology! It's good compilers don't appear to be conscious. I can't fathom the depths of their paranoia if they had to experience all the lies and coercion we put them through
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And that's how I ended up on mastodon
@elyn Some days I wake up and decide I want to invent a new type of number. I'm glad Python supports this.
