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The slow death of the power user.

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  • tallsimon@mstdn.caT tallsimon@mstdn.ca

    @koen_hufkens I saw a neat hiring trick once: an ISP had hidden the instructions on finding the job application in DNS TXT records. Without modest DNS and a few other networking skills you didn't get to even apply.

    I might have to resort to that if the "power user" situation is as bad as the article suggests. I guess I just don't hang out with the wrong people... 🤔

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    @TallSimon @koen_hufkens The old alt.hackers newsgroup was a little like this. You needed a moderator's assent to join and post, but there were no moderators: Everyone in there had figured out how to bypass moderation.

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    • gordoooo_z@hachyderm.ioG gordoooo_z@hachyderm.io

      @TallSimon @koen_hufkens I saw something similar done for a web developer position. It looked like the application page (linked from one of the big job boards. Probably Monster; this was well before Indeed or ZipRecruiter) was broken, just a blank white page. In the end, I had to use curl to get the application. It basically filtered out people who lacked even the bare minimum curiosity required to check the source to figure out why/how this mission critical page was seemingly broken.

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      @gordoooo_z @TallSimon @koen_hufkens
      I once saw a website where the first thing printed to the DevTools console was a message congratulating you for your curiosity, with a link to a job application page.

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      • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

        The slow death of the power user.

        "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

        The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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        #technology #tech #sustainability

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        #44

        @koen_hufkens It's this all over again: http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/
        Look, we've had the Raspberry Pi revolution since then. We may not be in great shape but self hosting and homelabs are a thing, for those that want to step into the wilderness there's plenty of opportunity to do so.

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        • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

          @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

          FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

          It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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          @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens fun fact, if you mix it yourself you can put as much vanilla as you want in it :DDD

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          • ireneista@adhd.irenes.spaceI ireneista@adhd.irenes.space

            @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens fun fact, if you mix it yourself you can put as much vanilla as you want in it :DDD

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            @ireneista @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens that's true of literally anything

            You can add vanilla to anything to make it more delicious, even to vanilla itself!

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            • saraislet@infosec.exchangeS saraislet@infosec.exchange

              @ireneista @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens that's true of literally anything

              You can add vanilla to anything to make it more delicious, even to vanilla itself!

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              @saraislet @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens yes indeed!

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              • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

                FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

                It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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                @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens
                Do you still get to add the egg, to give you a feeling you made something?
                Or has that been discarded now.

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                • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                  @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

                  FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

                  It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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                  @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens It's not *just* deskilling to increase dependence. Pancake mix USED to have just three ingredients. Now it has at least 7, some of which add bulk, prevent caking, and act as preservatives because of the need to package and ship it to you. So not only do you lose skills, you get a deliberately worse product with a higher profit margin for them.

                  Ed: Which, I forgot to add, creates a differentiated product which is amenable to marketing, increasing demand and profits.

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                  • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                    @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

                    FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

                    It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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                    @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens not just in technology either; pharmaceuticals, for example are still made with plant extracts but people see the common plants that heal us as weeds to be exterminated. And have you tried to source spare parts for broken electricals recently? It’s cheaper to just buy a new one - you don’t need a screwdriver any more; just an Amazon account.

                    The solution? Make, repair, support people to keep skills alive.

                    #AntiCapitalism #Enshitification #SolarPunk #RepairCafe

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                    • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                      The slow death of the power user.

                      "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                      The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                      (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

                      #technology #tech #sustainability

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                      @koen_hufkens in the old days, the word "power user" referred to those who had user interface (but not internals) knowledge, and that was already part of the problem, because these people were dependent on a particular ecosystem and their skills weren't transferable.

                      Creating these "power users" was the goal of anyone wanting to create a lock-in effect.

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                      • natz_b@mastodon.socialN natz_b@mastodon.social

                        @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens not just in technology either; pharmaceuticals, for example are still made with plant extracts but people see the common plants that heal us as weeds to be exterminated. And have you tried to source spare parts for broken electricals recently? It’s cheaper to just buy a new one - you don’t need a screwdriver any more; just an Amazon account.

                        The solution? Make, repair, support people to keep skills alive.

                        #AntiCapitalism #Enshitification #SolarPunk #RepairCafe

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                        @natz_b @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens Where possible, grow your own food (and share surpluses.)

                        One of the most radical acts.

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                        • wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social

                          @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens It's not *just* deskilling to increase dependence. Pancake mix USED to have just three ingredients. Now it has at least 7, some of which add bulk, prevent caking, and act as preservatives because of the need to package and ship it to you. So not only do you lose skills, you get a deliberately worse product with a higher profit margin for them.

                          Ed: Which, I forgot to add, creates a differentiated product which is amenable to marketing, increasing demand and profits.

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                          @wyatt_h_knott @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens See also bread. It's a faff making your own which is why we had neighborhood bakeries that made great bread daily. Now we get supermarket bread made hundreds of miles away laden with preservatives to withstand long distance transport, have a long shelf life in store and still seem 'fresh' several days after purchase.

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                          • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                            The slow death of the power user.

                            "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                            The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                            (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

                            #technology #tech #sustainability

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                            @koen_hufkens A decade ago I was a local councillor with an idea for a tourist app for our town. A local university had a scheme to pair small businesses or public services with computer students so they got some real -life experience. Our student made a demo app that used Google maps but the uni had an out of date licence for development work so the app wouldn't work properly on newer phones. I suggested he use OSM. He was horrified, open source wasn't on the curriculum.

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                            • wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social

                              @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens It's not *just* deskilling to increase dependence. Pancake mix USED to have just three ingredients. Now it has at least 7, some of which add bulk, prevent caking, and act as preservatives because of the need to package and ship it to you. So not only do you lose skills, you get a deliberately worse product with a higher profit margin for them.

                              Ed: Which, I forgot to add, creates a differentiated product which is amenable to marketing, increasing demand and profits.

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                              @wyatt_h_knott @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

                              What crazy-ass pancake recipes are y'all making? Pancakes have milk, eggs, melted butter, baking powder, flour, salt and sugar.

                              Also, I agree with your point but let's up our pancake game, friends. They are a gift to humanity. Let's show some respect!

                              😜

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                                @wyatt_h_knott @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

                                What crazy-ass pancake recipes are y'all making? Pancakes have milk, eggs, melted butter, baking powder, flour, salt and sugar.

                                Also, I agree with your point but let's up our pancake game, friends. They are a gift to humanity. Let's show some respect!

                                😜

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                                @johnzajac Have you looked at the ingredients list on a box of pancake mix lately?

                                Also, pancakes are just a vehicle for syrup. SYRUP is the gift to humanity.

                                @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

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                                • wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.socialW wyatt_h_knott@mstdn.social

                                  @johnzajac Have you looked at the ingredients list on a box of pancake mix lately?

                                  Also, pancakes are just a vehicle for syrup. SYRUP is the gift to humanity.

                                  @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

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                                  @wyatt_h_knott @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

                                  No because I always make my pancakes from scratch because I do not hate myself

                                  "Vehicle for syrup" was my nickname in college

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                                  • johnzajac@dice.campJ johnzajac@dice.camp

                                    @wyatt_h_knott @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

                                    No because I always make my pancakes from scratch because I do not hate myself

                                    "Vehicle for syrup" was my nickname in college

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                                    @johnzajac (claps) 😆

                                    @OrionKidder @koen_hufkens

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                                    • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                                      @koen_hufkens We can't all be "power users" in everything we use. I'm 100% OK with instant usability. If someone wants to just use a computer without knowing how it works that's no different from me wanting to just use clothes without knowing about weaving and stitching. Yes, that means that I'm dependent on Big Sewing. I'm OK with that. I don't want to be a self-sufficient peasant who can do everything he needs to survive but can't go to the opera.

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                                      @DrHyde @koen_hufkens Fast fashion (aka "Big Sewing") is a big problem that hurts the people working in it and our environment. It's hard to recognize something has value if you don't know how it was made.

                                      You don't have to knowing everything about textile production or weave your own clothes... I do so because I enjoy it.

                                      I still strongly believe we'd be better off if everyone knew how to sew a button back on or fix a small hole.

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                                      • tallsimon@mstdn.caT tallsimon@mstdn.ca

                                        @koen_hufkens I saw a neat hiring trick once: an ISP had hidden the instructions on finding the job application in DNS TXT records. Without modest DNS and a few other networking skills you didn't get to even apply.

                                        I might have to resort to that if the "power user" situation is as bad as the article suggests. I guess I just don't hang out with the wrong people... 🤔

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                                        @TallSimon @koen_hufkens I did that at a previous job. Put a job ad into the website html and console log

                                        Can't remember if someone applied through it, though

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                                        • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                          The slow death of the power user.

                                          "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                                          The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                                          (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

                                          #technology #tech #sustainability

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                                          @koen_hufkens I appreciate that this article correctly identifies the (main) villain - Apple, and the iPhone.

                                          But I'm a little annoyed at the claim that no one saw it at the time. I did. I saw the iPhone and I was appalled and disgusted at all the perfectly intelligent people who bought into it and were excited at rushing into the closed garden.

                                          I knew what it would mean at what it would lead to. Not because I was a prescient genius but because I already knew it from video game consoles.

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