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  3. Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

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  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

    @alice Sadly "no ethical consumption..."

    Sure none of them are "good", but boy howdy are there layers of bad

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    @JessTheUnstill @alice

    I always think of The Good Place when having this conversation with people...

    There's actually nothing truly ethical when we live in a society like ours.

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

      Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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      @alice
      Publicly owned corporations are evil by default.

      iirc there was a study where someone did a psychological study of corporations and concluded that all publicly owned ones are sociopaths/psychopaths.

      Privately owned ones depend on the owner.

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      • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

        @alice

        We call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?

        I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should

        Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.

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        @Aprazeth @alice honestly, brand loyalty feels weird though... I don't get what's hard about using corporations and their products as yools, either suited or unsuited to your current needs (including the need to do minimum harm)

        corporations are machines created to make money, and havingparasocial relationships with them is odd

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

          Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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          @alice what I have learned that commercially driven entities no matter what are initial settings will lean towards greed, unless explicitly said otherwise.
          Thus there can be no loyalty to something that is not a person and will change accordingly by the rules of greed and entity itself.
          Greed simply generates vacuum of responsibility and empathy within organisation, and justifies and amplifies worst instincts of people of sociopathic nature.
          Only exception is self organised workforce.

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

            Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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            @alice I'm only brand loyal when brand offers me service I like. The moment they don't I'll switch to something else or at least consider alternatives.

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            • octaviaconamore@cutie.cityO octaviaconamore@cutie.city

              @Aprazeth @alice honestly, brand loyalty feels weird though... I don't get what's hard about using corporations and their products as yools, either suited or unsuited to your current needs (including the need to do minimum harm)

              corporations are machines created to make money, and havingparasocial relationships with them is odd

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              @OctaviaConAmore
              For most people is not the corporation they develop that with - it is with their products. Especially nostalgia.

              The brand and type of cookies wr got when visiting our friends/family when we were a kid. The instant noodles that were the only thing people could afford during tough times, and so on.

              That all said: if the only thing people can afford is corporation owned, and they need it for survival: do not feel pressured or shamed to change until safe to do so

              @alice

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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                @alice It has taken me a long time to realize I need to break some habits like saying "let me google that" or etc. It's hard to break that one in particular, yet if there is anyone who truly deserves to be broken, it's Google...

                And OMG the Apple fanatics...

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                  Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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                  @alice remember kids, don’t anthropomorphize a balance sheet. Picking between corporations is just about harm reduction.

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                  • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

                    @alice

                    We call their fans/enablers corpo's for plural and corpo for singular, right?

                    I get that it can be hard, due to nostalgia and what not to step out of those parasocial relationships. Yet you should

                    Because they didn't get there by playing fair all the way, and all the time. None have, none will.

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                    @Aprazeth @alice "The golden retriever is still a dog."

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                      Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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                      @alice support small businesses and creators and buy local whenever you can!

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                      • darkasvim@fosstodon.orgD darkasvim@fosstodon.org

                        @alice 100% Corporations are not people. They do not have rights. They should be politically neutral. We shouldn't have to practice social activism based upon where we buy plywood.

                        Honestly corporations shouldn't exist at all.

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                        #38

                        @Darkasvim @alice The ownership is the key problem. If companies were owned by the workers who create their value, things would certainly be different.

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                          Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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                          @alice All Corporations Are Bastard

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            @paranormal_distribution both are true 😮‍💨

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                            @alice @paranormal_distribution

                            ditto

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              Much like ACAB, even "good" corporations are still fucking corporations.

                              Brand loyalty is a parasocial relationship.

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                              @alice @srtcd424 so is the loyalty to any prestigious institutions or group of people ( elitism)

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                              • darkasvim@fosstodon.orgD darkasvim@fosstodon.org

                                @alice 100% Corporations are not people. They do not have rights. They should be politically neutral. We shouldn't have to practice social activism based upon where we buy plywood.

                                Honestly corporations shouldn't exist at all.

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                                @Darkasvim @alice

                                I'll consider corporations to be people when they can be thrown in jail for their crimes.

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