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In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

    The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

    I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

    The second will follow later.

    #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

    linkshaender@bildung.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @stefano

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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

      The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

      I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

      The second will follow later.

      #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

      matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
      matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @stefano you need analogies …

      That’s installing a GUI on a router so you can debug a web app.

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      • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @stefano you need analogies …

        That’s installing a GUI on a router so you can debug a web app.

        matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @stefano That’s like reprogramming the airport’s radar system so one passenger, a dev of radar apps, can test a new phone radar app.

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        • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          @stefano That’s like reprogramming the airport’s radar system so one passenger, a dev of radar apps, can test a new phone radar app.

          matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @stefano Containers are musicians; the host is the conductor and the sheet music stand. You can hand one musician a weird experimental instrument, but if you start swapping out the conductor’s brain mid-performance and it crashes, the whole orchestra stops.

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          • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @stefano Containers are musicians; the host is the conductor and the sheet music stand. You can hand one musician a weird experimental instrument, but if you start swapping out the conductor’s brain mid-performance and it crashes, the whole orchestra stops.

            matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @stefano Containers are the train cars; the host is the locomotive. If you keep bolting random test equipment onto the locomotive and it fails, all the cars stop, because none of them move without the engine.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

              The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

              I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

              The second will follow later.

              #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

              angel@triptico.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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              🤦 I wonder if this developer understands anything
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              • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @stefano Containers are musicians; the host is the conductor and the sheet music stand. You can hand one musician a weird experimental instrument, but if you start swapping out the conductor’s brain mid-performance and it crashes, the whole orchestra stops.

                linkshaender@bildung.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                @matuzalem @stefano I like that analogy!

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                  The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                  I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                  The second will follow later.

                  #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                  adnan@ap.aelaraji.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @stefano@bsd.cafe Was that his idea, or was it from some SlopGPT agent?
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                  • angel@triptico.comA angel@triptico.com
                    🤦 I wonder if this developer understands anything
                    chebra@mstdn.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @angel It's probably one of those IT guys who has already been replaced by AI. Or at least his brain was.

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                      The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                      I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                      The second will follow later.

                      #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                      teapot_ben@glammr.usT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @stefano 🤯

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                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                        The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                        I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                        The second will follow later.

                        #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                        labellaragassa@exquisite.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @stefano oh dear, and it is only Monday!

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                        • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @stefano Dear lord, most people in this industry have no fracking clue anymore.

                          radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @nuintari @stefano

                          Many of them often think that when they came from computer science school, they know all the important things of The Craft

                          In reality they won't even be able to start up a server park

                          🦋💙❤️💋#WordsOfWisdom 💙💕🌹💐💙🦋

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                          • adnan@ap.aelaraji.comA adnan@ap.aelaraji.com
                            @stefano@bsd.cafe Was that his idea, or was it from some SlopGPT agent?
                            stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @adnan his, unfortunately...

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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                              The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                              I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                              The second will follow later.

                              #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                              joany@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @stefano Thank you for the smile

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                                The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                                I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                                The second will follow later.

                                #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                                michel@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                                michel@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
                                michel@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                                @stefano *chef's kiss*

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